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Pastimes : Do handguns serve a purpose other than killing people? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (261)	9/27/1999 2:36:00 AM
From: j__z	Respond to of 289

Looks like "The Truth" has brought up a good fallacy in the presumption that logic always holds true in every circumstance. A=B & B=C So A must equal C. Works great in math but does not hold necessarily true when people are involved. If "The Truth" statement actually held true then I & many others would be killers. My guns have never killed anyone, so I guess my guns don't kill people. Mystery solved. The only way that I could kill someone with a gun is if I dropped the clip out of the gun, picked up the clip, load rounds into the clip, put the clip into the gun, pull the slide back to load the gun, then go and find somebody to shoot, found someone, point it at them, aim, and then pulled the trigger. Thats about 13 steps. Each step requires thought, and a willingness to move to the next step, which is a choice in itself. So don't give me this semantic BS that "guns kill people". That would be like blaming alcohol for the drunk driving fatalities. We don't blame the beer, whiskey, or wine, we blame the driver behind the wheel. Who had a choice, to go get blasted and then get behind the wheel. As far as the NRA comment... The NRA is a fairly moderate pro-gun group. They just happen to be the largest and the most visible. If you want to see a real pro-gun group, check out Gun Owners of America (G.O.A.) web site or Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (JFPO) web site. Go ahead and bash the NRA, but it would be very hard to stand ground against JFPO. After all many of their older members were subjected to the one thing many Second Amendment believers are trying to prevent from ever happening in this country. That one thing is the Holocaust. You may have heard about it. PERPETRATOR GOVERNMENT DATE TARGET # MURDERED (ESTIMATED) DATE OF GUN CONTROL LAW SOURCE DOCUMENT Ottoman Turkey 1915-1917 Armenians 1-1.5 million 1886 1911 Art. 166, Penal Code Art. 166 Penal Code Soviet Union* 1929-1953 Anti-Communists Anti-Stalinists 20 million 1929 Art. 182 Penal Code Nazi Germany*& Occupied Europe 1933-1945 Jews, Gypsies, Anti-Nazis 13 million 1928, 1938 Law on Firearms & Ammunition, April 12 Weapons Law, March 18 China 1949-1952 1957-1960 1966-1976 Anti-Communists Rural Populations Pro-Reform Group 20 million 1935 1957 Arts. 186-7, Penal Code Art. 9, Security Law, Oct. 22 Guatemala 1960-1981 Maya Indians 100,000 1871, 1964 Decree 36, Nov 25 Decree 283, Oct 27 Uganda 1971-1979 Christians, Political Rivals 300,000 1955 1970 Firearms Ordinance Firearms Act Cambodia 1975-1979 Educated Persons 1 million 1956 Arts. 322-8, Penal Code Yeah & many people say "It can't happen here". Well, disarm the people of a nation and its only a matter of time before the same people, or the children of the people that voted in such laws are subjugated into the position of being victims of such atrocities.