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To: sea_biscuit who wrote (7447)	9/30/1999 3:45:00 PM
From: Satya Podury	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 12475

Ok, lets take this posting of yours and analyze it a bit, in the context of what you have posted recently: "I have said time and again that I am not a fan of the Congress(I). If I chose to criticize the BJP a whole lot more, it is only because (a) they are the pretenders to the high moral ground, when in reality they are just as scummy as the rest,..." Actually the pretenders to the "high moral ground" are the so-called secular parties like Congress(I)! It's they who have been claiming for the past 50-odd years that they have the interest of the minorities such as the muslims, SC/ST, etal on top of their agenda. And some, nay many, suckers have been falling for this posture for the last 50 years, and continue to do so. Lets call a spade a spade, and dump Congress(I) into the dustbin of history as a failed party in free India. Just like Russia did with communism. If after 50 years of driving India and Indians to misery, they still have the gall to portray themselves as the guardians of all things good, it only shows two things: 1) that they are very good at fooling people all the time(!! I thought this was not possible) 2)that the people of India, especially those targetted by Congress(I) are really stupid to still believe in them. Or illiterate. Or Educated but stupid. Or... With such Congress(I) blinkers on, one naturally sees anything BJP does as wrong. Being an opposition party does not mean to oppose everything, and it definitely doesn't mean trying to come to power by pulling down govts at every opportune moment. If BJP and Congress(I) are equally scummy, as you said above, then your posts sure dont seem to show it. If your beef is againt people here in the US who think highly of BJP, fight them! Why are you denigrating BJP exclusively? Why not denigrate the others, too, equally? As for claiming that BJP has exclusive control of the high moral grounds, facts prove otherwise. It's just your contention. The world over people seem to think that BJP(thanks to some misguided elements of RSS/VHP/BajrangDal) is in the wrong. No, I seriously believe that you have something against BJP itself. And the other scummy parties can commit murder, but will still be the goody-goody boy in your books. And yes, IMO, what Congress(I) has done to India is worse than murder. (think you have the reasonableness to acknowledge this atleast?) Again, you are not criticising BJP "a whole lot more". From the previous few posts atleast, you are criticising the BJP exclusively. "and (b) there is a perception among many Indians, esp. those who are in the US, that the BJP is indeed the best thing to happen to India since ages." Well, as I said, either you fight perceptions, or you fight facts. No point mixing them up.

To: sea_biscuit who wrote (7447)	9/30/1999 4:26:00 PM
From: JPR	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 12475

Dipy: All of us on this thread are curious about your origins. Some observations: You are not born and brought up in this country -USA, because your use of words, idioms are not American. You admitted that you resided in India for a decade or so. You seem to know about the Indian politics that anybody can pick up from newspapers. You know about Diwali. But U did not mention about other important festivals in India. * U are anti BJP, VHP, RSS, Hindutva etc. You did not show any evidence that U have a grounding in Hindu religious studies in a way that a Hindu or for that matter an Indian would know. You were concerned about the minorities in India. That puts U in sympathy with and part of that category. It is tempting to say that U R a muslim of pakistani origin. U stayed in North India / Bombay / Goa during your formative years and thus developed a strong sense of outrage against Hindu extremists. Your father may have been a ???pakistani / Goan/portugese/European/ businessman, a foreign office official or trade rep or such. Your education must have been in a relatively exclusive school, where English was the medium of instruction. U have a good command of the English language. During School years , U probably made fun of Indians, Sadhus and Monkeys with your class mates. You never mentioned anything about Holy Koran in your posts. That may have been due to the liberal education U had during your formative years. You haven't mentioned anything about Jesus Christ or any particular empathy to Christians. I must bet that U are not an Indian christian, because U haven't empathized with them in particular. I doubt that U are an AngloIndian. There is a possibility that U are an ofspring of portugese/Goan official. The constant talk about monkeys and characterization of Saffron-clad Sadhus as Saffron-Longot monkeys indicates that U are not an Indian and not used to the monkeys, until U came to India. You have put yourself above the Sadhus . In order to call them as monkeys, either U have to be a Non-Indian Muslim or part European and part something else. "How am I doing so far? You are also very much repelled about the public defecation and toilets. That puts U more in an European category. A pakistani has the same toilet facilities or lack there of. Yesterday, U did not care to read the Sanskrit verses; that for practical purposes excludes U from being a Pakistani. A pakistani would understand quite a few words of Sanskrit.U did not know/ did not pretend to know Swami Vishnu Devanada. He was in US in late 1960s and on. I came to the conclusion that you have Eurpean blood in U. U once said that the British should be back to rule India. Also once U said that U applaud the British Prime Minister Mr.Churchil. My conclusion is based on the fact that U are particularly repulsed by lack of toilets and the screeching monkeys in India. U have more sympathy with Muslims, because as an European or part European, you may feel that U belong to the ruling race. JPR