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To: Dayuhan who wrote (56803)	10/2/1999 11:26:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 108807

Somoza was a prick. The Sandinistas, despite their big talk, turned out to be pricks. The Contras, by and large, were also pricks. Such is, of course, politics, and, more to the point, such is Latin American politics. Your larger point was the most salient one, I believe. The people of Latin America in general, and in this case, Nicaragua, in particular, were struggling to throw off the legacies of centuries of colonialism, and colonial-type governments. Their default mode wasn't British mercantilism, nor German trade unionism, nor anything else we could find recognizable. Their default mode was medieval Spain and precolumbian Indian culture ~ no wonder they found Marxism to be advanced. To them, it was. At least Marxism had a spiritually advanced ideology. Now, what is there? The United States, the most advanced country in the world, has an incredibly corrupt government. We used to be able to posture about the rule of law. Now, we can't even do that.

To: Dayuhan who wrote (56803)	10/3/1999 2:01:00 PM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Really? As soon as there was a free and fair election, they were gone. JLA

To: Dayuhan who wrote (56803)	11/8/1999 8:03:00 AM
From: Zoltan!	Respond to of 108807

>>Nicaraguan support for the Sandinistas was widespread and strong. If it wasn't they would not have attained power. There is no evidence for that. The Sandinistas had the arms and threatened more violence. They were never chosen. Nicaraguans surely wanted Somoza out, but that just as surely doesn't mean they knowingly chose Sandinista totalitarianism. When your side was forced to hold elections, they lost. That was and remains the only valid expression of the people in that protracted struggle.