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To: RWReeves who wrote (32)	10/4/1999 1:01:00 AM
From: LLCF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 357

<Any idea how many times a kid's immune system will be challenged with live virus, bacteria, fungi and parasites growing up?> I hear you saying you that injecting live virus into a toddler or baby is equal to an every day 'immune system challenge'? <Throw in allergans too. Count up all the colds, stomach aches, allergies, rashes, fevers, cuts, scrapes, open sores, dental work and all the other normal kid malaise and EACH ONE is the same (or worse!)as a vaccine challenge.> Really... can you sight some research for me showing how each of these is same attack on the body as live vaccine for any number of virus' injected into the body? < Kid has an immune system (and damn good ones- much better than us geezers-) > Can you help me find information about immune system development in infants and toddlers to back that up? I hear you saying babies & toddlers have better immune systems that 40 year olds. < A friend of the family who is a therapist for kids with learning and speech disorders once told us that there didn't appear that this generation has more dyslexia, autism, etc, only that it is now so systematically and aggressively diagnosed. > This is absolutely false FYI... did you watch the show? Is that your take on ADD as well? <So I'd like to offer a constructive suggestion: Before I had my kid vaccinated for polio and Hep I called up the Medical Director at Connaught and SB and we went over all the clinical data- risks and contraindications, side effects and AE history. > There is no doubt that vaccinations are good things for the general population. The question is weather parents should be FORCED [mandated by law in most states] to have their children vaccinated if they have suspicions of problems... in many cases parents suspect that there are problems, are told it's all bull and apon the second round watch their children melt away. Interesting that you mentioned HEP... do see any reason for infants to be given that vaccine instead of waiting until their at least old enough to step on the nail we're worried about? <I called up the Medical Director at Connaught and SB and we went over all the clinical data- risks and contraindications, side effects and AE history> The whole point is the higher up you go in the establishment, the further you're going to get from anyone with this link. That's the whole point, you have to go to one of probably 20 doctors in the U.S. [total speculation on my part... I know of about 5 including the one on the show tonight] to even learn about treatment...let along causes. <Early lesson form biostatistics: Co-incidence is NOT causality. > Yes that's the standard line, since this phenom often happends, it is the alternative possibility to causual relationship. Since there have been no scientific studies done, I suppose we'll have to wait and see. <So why would a vaccination "blast the immune system to smithereens?"> IMO there are probably lots of causes for this condition [autistic spectrum]... another area of concern is anti-biotics wiping out the gut flora where a majority of the immune system operates. I wouldn't doubt that these kids have a genetic pre-disposition to certain stressors that can set them off... and when one comes along.. boom. Vaccines are probably just one stressor that might be the straw that broke the camels back so to speak. Summing up... if you read my post I didn't say we shouldn't using vaccines, thats rediculous... you'll note that I said the mounting evidence has the establishment very edgy... they realize how important vaccines are. Unfortunately they don't seem to think that we can think for ourselves, and assume people can't weigh the cost/benefit ourselves and don't want to rock the boat... meanwhile more and more vaccines are becoming available and being added to the regular regime with little choice. DAK

To: RWReeves who wrote (32)	10/4/1999 1:17:00 AM
From: Gordon A. Langston	Respond to of 357

Your statement that autism and dyslexia are more common because they are more "aggressively diagnosed" Like ADD, which gave us Ritalin, like ulcers being caused by excess acid, like better just to get a hysterectomy. Sometimes you need to question the motives of modern medicine. Remember Thalidomide? BTW what were the risks as regards polio and Hep and is it easy to get a waiver for school is you refuse vaccinations?