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To: Elmer who wrote (73890)	10/5/1999 12:19:00 AM
From: Haim Barad	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1572507

Before we all find out CuMine's performance, let's agree on what the word "faster" means: 1. top speed (MHz) shipping in volumes, or 2. top announced speed Regarding benchmarks, what does faster mean: 1. faster on SpecInt and SpecFP benchmarks (don't care about others) 2. faster on others (don't care about Spec) 3. faster on all or "most" of the benchmarks I think that the MHz issue is difficult since almost anything can be announced and that's what the argument there tends to focus on. Regarding benchmarks, what is the consensus about "faster" What I mean is: do you really think that CuMine can beat Athelon on ANY benchmark... even SOME benchmark... certainly not MOST... 8^) Haim

To: Elmer who wrote (73890)	10/5/1999 12:54:00 AM
From: Cirruslvr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572507

Elmer - RE: "I will not consider the CuMine to outperform the Athlon unless it does so on SpecInt95 and/or SpecFP95." That would be impressive if "E" could beat the Athlon in fp95.

To: Elmer who wrote (73890)	10/5/1999 1:06:00 AM
From: THE WATSONYOUTH	Respond to of 1572507

Re: "I will not consider the CuMine to outperform the Athlon unless it does so on SpecInt95 and/or SpecFP95. Obscure benchmarks don't count. But keep in mind we have been fed a constant diet telling us the K7 is 7th generation architecture and Intel's old 6th generation can't possibly come close. Imagine the egg on their faces if CuMine actually beats Athlon, the mighty 7th generation worlds fastest x86 processor!!" If CuMine beats Athlon, I guess we will just have to start comparing Intel's new 7th generation manufacturing process with AMD's old 6th. THE WATSONYOUTH