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To: kash johal who wrote (74184)	10/6/1999 1:54:00 AM
From: Process Boy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572574

kash - <PS You were wondering when the Ultra's will show up - we will know more tomorrow night.> Cool. <I have an open mind on this. I am willing to applaud Intels engineers if they have improved the core. I had expected to see SPEC numbers. I would like to see them too, but we may have to wait for official product launch. <Intel has chosen NOT to publish 600B spec numbers to show off the 133Mhz bus.> Since the i820 is not currently available, this is not that surprising. From what little I know from a distance, Intel doesn't publish benchmarks too often lately on things that aren't available. Looking at the spec.org web site, I don't see too many ommisions, if any, on available products. If I'm wrong on this, I'll retract. <I am concerned that they may pull the same stunt with coppermine. Perhaps show some creative "streaming" benchmarks etc and not even publish SPEC.> I'm fairly certain that Intel will publish spec numbers on Coppermine. Just my unwashed opinion. <Hopefully they will show up soon.> Again, I don't believe Intel publishes this type of data on unreleased product, except under NDA. I believe this to be pretty standard SOP, gauging the recent past. PB

To: kash johal who wrote (74184)	10/6/1999 2:03:00 AM
From: Process Boy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572574

kash - <I am willing to applaud Intels engineers if they have improved the core.> What I was hoping to stimulate, when I published the technical details of the design enhancements incorporated into Coppermine, was some discussion by the "architecture thingy" types on what this may mean in terms of performance. Unfortunately, a lot of the thread contributors on the subject are at the conference, so evidently we have to wait. My interpretation of a main message to be garnered on what Intel was to present on the subject was that Coppermine is much more than just a bolt-on cache. The "bolt-on" theme is something that I've seen as a point of seemingly endless speculation over the last several months. PB