Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: greenspirit who wrote (58316)	10/10/1999 3:34:00 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Michael, how would you feel if say, Ellen Degeneres joined some group to promote parenting? Because Gary Busey, who is a known batterer, is one of the PKs frontpeople. I mean this is just another take on that old cliche about ex-alcoholics being the only people that become social workers. I wouldn't have any problem with this kind of thing except that these groups go beyond their own constituency and start telling everybody else how to live. If they wanted to say, "hey all you batterers out there, we want to help..." then ok, but they don't do that... as you well know.

To: greenspirit who wrote (58316)	10/10/1999 10:24:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

I agree that the present position on women, via the offical Promise Keepers web site, is innocuous. As I said, I know people in the organization, including my own father, and therefore, know for a fact that the position was different earlier. What is to be made of this? You could argue that the earlier position has been abandoned. Or, you could argue that the earlier position is embarrassing, and has been downplayed for public consumption. I have no opinion, only time will tell. As Reagan said, facts are stupid things, and the truth is the truth.

To: greenspirit who wrote (58316)	10/10/1999 10:40:00 PM
From: Krowbar	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Yes, as Blue has pointed out, I see that the Promise Keepers have really toned down their public stance on women. Earlier, they made it very clear that women are to be subordinate to their husbands under all circumstances. I don't trust people who toned down that philosophy for the site that is open to public view. I have never heard them reject the earlier stance as wrong. We seem to have a few men here who can't stand women daring to speak to them as equals. Del