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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (278)10/10/1999 8:14:00 PM
From: Berry Picker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4775
 
Oh you've got the little book ....

Well if you think that is fun go and see what was recorded in the Septuagint Version of the scriptures at 11 Chronicles 22:2 and get back to me :-}

I mean if your going to present yourself as someone who can comment on textual criticism that should be EASY :-}



To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (278)10/10/1999 8:16:00 PM
From: truedog  Respond to of 4775
 
to: James McGowan
from: truedog

Jimmy, Are you really going to base an argument on a simple transposition of numbers because of some careless translator. Now you are really grasping at straws to save a lame position.

TD



To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (278)10/10/1999 8:17:00 PM
From: Tom Clarke  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4775
 
James, it is contradictions such as this that prove the bible is not some orchestrated put up job. If the early writers intended to trick us into believing fables, don't you think they would have gotten their stories straight? Sheesh, they had centuries to compare notes.

The stories and accounts were transcribed by flawed human beings and handed down verbatim. The remarkable thing is nobody altered anything to have all the stories jibe.



To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (278)10/10/1999 11:30:00 PM
From: PROLIFE  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4775
 
James,

I know you have the web version of "Let's tangle up a Christian today" game board,with it's 101 or so "mistakes" , but in response to your question, what possible difference to your salvation could it make whether Ahaziah was 22 or 42?

Do you think the original paprys could have survived 3000 years? But that you may have an argument here is one:

Because we are dealing with accounts which were written thousands of years ago, we would not expect to have the originals in our possession today, as they would have disintegrated long ago. We are therefore dependent on the copies taken from copies of those originals, which were in turn continually copied out over a period of centuries. Those who did the copying were prone to making two types of scribal errors. One concerned the spelling of proper names, and the other had to do with numbers.

The two examples of numerical discrepancy here have to do with a decade in the number given. Ahaziah is said to have been 22 in 2 Kings 8:26; while in 2 Chronicles 22:2 Ahaziah is said to have been 42. Fortunately there is enough additional information in the Biblical text to show that the correct number is 22. Earlier in 2 Kings 8:17 the author mentions that Ahaziah's father Joram ben Ahab was 32 when he became King, and he died eight years later, at the age of 40. Therefore Ahaziah could not have been 42 at the time of his father's death at age 40! Such scribal errors do not change Jewish or Christian beliefs in the least. In such a case, another portion of scripture often corrects the mistake (2 Kings 8:26 in this instance). We must also remember that the scribes who were responsible for the copies were meticulously honest in handling Biblical texts. They delivered them as they received them, without changing even obvious mistakes, which are few indeed.


(from Jay Smith, Alex Chowdhry,Toby Jepson,James Schaeffer)