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To: Michael M who wrote (58551)	10/11/1999 8:36:00 PM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Michael, can't you just picture that guy "Charles" on the show MASH during his first few weeks in Korea? That must have been around the same time Al was "Taking the initiative in creating the Internet". :-) Mark my word, there is NO way the American people will elect Al Gore President of the United States. Talk about the antithesis of intellectualism! Michael

To: Michael M who wrote (58551)	10/12/1999 12:04:00 PM
From: Zoltan!	Respond to of 108807

Not only that, AlGore appears to be guilty of what E unjustly accuses Reagan of doing: rightgrrl.com

To: Michael M who wrote (58551)	11/13/1999 10:21:00 AM
From: Zoltan!	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

>>The 4 1/2 months in-country are a joke. Where are the reporters demanding to know what beneficial treatment he got? Anyone know what unit he was assigned to? Where he bunked? What articles he wrote for what publications? Do we have any photos of "Fightin' Al"? Any comments from old army buddies? Story from the LATimes, makes you wonder whether AlGore is delusional or just craven: AlGore was about to be drafted so he joined the military, apparently as a political calculation for himself and his father who was running unsuccessfully for re-election. AlGore reportedly had extremely preferential treatment - people were assigned to keep him safe. The powerful Senator's son was kept away from combat and returned home at his own request after a brief stay. Nevertheless, Gore the politician over the years sometimes has been inclined to describe his Vietnam days as though he was in the thick of the war Old Senator Gore used it for everything it was worth in his losing effort to cling to office: But the Gore campaign tried its best to show that Sen. Gore, while against the war, was still a patriot. The team produced a television commercial in which the senator rode up on a white horse and told Al, dressed in Army fatigues, "Son, always love your country." When Gore received his orders for Vietnam, just five weeks before the November 1970 election, his father announced it publicly: "Like thousands of other Tennessee boys, he volunteered. . . . Like other fathers, I am proud." Nixon, to his credit, exposed and denied that cynical political calculation: "But the orders to Vietnam were delayed, and Gore would not ship out until Christmas. The family believed President Nixon postponed the orders to deny Sen. Gore any political boost from having a son in Vietnam on election day. After three decades in Congress, Gore lost to Brock by 4% of the vote. And by the end of 1970, his son was in Vietnam. LATimes reports that enlisted men were ordered to serve as Al Gore's "bodyguards" and to keep him out of harm's way: Other soldiers with long experience in Vietnam said that Gore was treated differently from his fellow enlistees. Two of them recalled that before Gore arrived Brig. Gen. Kenneth B. Cooper advised them that a senator's son would be joining the outfit. H. Alan Leo said soldiers were ordered to serve as Gore's bodyguards, to keep him out of harm's way. "It blew me away," Leo said. "I was to make sure he didn't get into a situation he could not get out of. They didn't want him to get into trouble. So we went into the field after the fact [after combat actions], and that limited his exposure to any hazards." AlGore recreated a battle in which he took no part - he wasn't even there!: In his most ambitious piece, he re-created a battle at a fire support base code-named Blue near the Cambodian border, which a group of Viet Cong had tried to overrun. "On the night of February 22nd, there was no moon," Gore wrote. "The men sacked out early as usual, soon after the movie was over--'Bloody Mama' with Shelley Winters as the maniac murderess--the guards were posted as usual--the password was 'four.' ".... Mike Roche, editor of the engineers' Castle Courier newspaper, said it took courage to go to the fire base, even if the battle was over. "He was tanned and he had the bleached-out fatigues and . . . he was doing war-related stories," Roche said. "He took risks." No sunscreen? AlGore spent three months in Vietnam before he asked for out to go to divinity school: Veterans said a standard tour in Vietnam was 12 months; Gore was out in five. Early releases were not uncommon at the time, though. The 20th Engineers was departing Vietnam, which meant the Army no longer needed a reporter assigned to the brigade. Gore also was approaching the last months of his two-year commitment. In March, with less than three months in Vietnam, he requested an early release and was told the next day he could leave in May to return to school. No mention of his subsequent failure to complete law school. AlGore appears to have been fabulating about his Vietnam experience for political gain: Gore enrolled in Vanderbilt University's divinity school but stayed only a year and left to take a job in Nashville as a reporter for the Tennessean, where he worked for four years. When the House seat from his dad's old district opened up in 1976, Gore ran and won. He later was elected to his father's old Senate seat. The Army and Vietnam came up in his campaigns; he often portrayed his experience as more dangerous than it truly was. Men who were assigned to watch him basically said he made it up: In 1988, running for president, he told Vanity Fair magazine, "I took my turn regularly on the perimeter in these little firebases out in the boonies. Something would move, we'd fire first and ask questions later." He told the Washington Post: "I was shot at. I spent most of my time in the field." "I carried an M-16 . . . ," he told the Baltimore Sun. "I pulled my turn on the perimeter at night and walked through the elephant grass and I was fired upon." For the Weekly Standard, he described flights aboard combat helicopters. "I used to fly these things with the doors open, sitting on the ledge with our feet hanging down. If you flew low and fast, they wouldn't have as much time to shoot you." Any location in Vietnam was potentially dangerous during the war. But eight men who served there with Gore said in separate interviews that he was never in the middle of a battle. Gore himself has toned down descriptions of his wartime activity during the current campaign; he now emphasizes that he was in Vietnam as a news reporter and not as a combat soldier. Gore declined to be interviewed for this article. 'Nuff said. latimes.com AlGore and Clinton really laid it on thick this past Veteran's Day with all their talk about how AlGore, as a veteran, had a measure of qualifications that others lacked - disingenuously placing AlGore on the same level as McCain and other combat veterans. All in all an absolutely disgusting performance considering the actual terms of AlGore's service as reported.