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To: Ilaine who wrote (59247)	10/17/1999 10:27:00 PM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

No, what I really want is for a voucher program to pass so that I can choose which school to send my children to. Actually though, until I move I don't have to worry about it. Because, if you sent your child through a private Montessori program like we did, then researched for months the public school paperwork/interview requirements. Your kids get to go to special program for gifted kids. (provided of course they do well on the non R&R studied state wide tests.) The government schools are a lot like the tax laws. If you're willing to study for weeks researching every requirement, your child can probably go to a decent public school. You know what's funny, there's only 3 boys in a class of 12 in my sons first grade. Seems girls test better at an early age than boys on average. Something tells me if the gender numbers were reversed their would be a big hue and cry from the media. Michael

To: Ilaine who wrote (59247)	10/17/1999 10:27:00 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 108807

Absolutely agree- and I think most people here agreed it was not the job of the school to teach religious education. I think the recent discussion was over whether the children could pray if they wanted to- although MSB was certainly advocating some mandatory prayer- which, as we have discussed, is not in line with Constitutional law as it stands today. I think that silent prayer is both proper in all situations and completely unobtrusive- unless the child is clasping the hands in prayer and bowing the head- both of which are unnecessary (as I understand scripture) to communicate privately with God. So the question really- now- is when may a child, alone, of their own volition, pray out loud in school. I don't see a problem with children praying on their own when their time is their own- I.E. not during time reserved for education- which would be (primarily) lunch and recess. I would have a problem if the praying was designed to be a spectator sport- in other words, I would think it inappropriate if a child was making a show of their religion in order to proselytize to to other children. The school yard is not the appropriate place for that (imo)- and I seem to recall the Court has held something similar to that- as the children are a captive audience at school.

To: Ilaine who wrote (59247)	10/17/1999 11:49:00 PM
From: Michael M	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

What a dopey reference to me. Can you find a post that says I am against sep. of church and state? Can you find a post where I advocate the teaching of ANY religion in public school? Can you find a post where I argue for prayer in school (I did offer the view that sport is a kind of warfare and that the tradition of "God help me" before going into battle is a kind of natural thing to do)? Can you find a post where I claim my beliefs are more valid than anyone else's. Maybe you'll get lucky.....who knows. My main point in taking any part in this discussion was to object to people referring to my beliefs as "ridiculous" and stating or suggesting strongly that piety and intelligence don't mix.