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To: Stormweaver who wrote (21519)10/20/1999 3:58:00 PM
From: QwikSand  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 64865
 
I can walk down to my local computer store and chose from a range of replacement parts.

LOL! Better watch the ones that have those little "returned and re-wrapped" stickers on 'em because the first buyer or three couldn't make them work! You can also go down to Main Street and choose from a range of hookers. Or, you can marry an attractive and intelligent woman with a career.

--QS



To: Stormweaver who wrote (21519)10/20/1999 4:02:00 PM
From: Prognosticator  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 64865
 
Just as well, since commodity priced PC parts are always failing. The competitive nature of the PC marketplace means that the components you can buy are of lower quality than those that Sun put into their boxes. Hard-disks, in particular, seem to fail often. And WindowsNT workstation has no mechanisms for mirroring critical disks. NT server can in theory RAID disks, but does not make mirroring easy.
Cloning the BOOT sectors is particularly nasty, and requires use of third party tools like Ghost, which requires extra administration work. So again we have lower-cost parts, better availability, poorer quality, and greater running costs.

P.



To: Stormweaver who wrote (21519)10/20/1999 9:08:00 PM
From: JC Jaros  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 64865
 
RAS, S-erviceability better on Wintel than Sun.

<pssfft!!> (spewing ale onto all over the monitor)

Servicability: That too. I thought 'S' as in Scalability. That's the 'S' I was meaning to reference.

I can walk down to my local computer store

You walk down to your local computer store because you don't have a car. You don't have a car because you don't have a job. You don't have a job because you don't have a clue that desktop development is a commodity occupation that is merely seeking volunteers.

You're silly and irrelevant. Go away.

-JCJ



To: Stormweaver who wrote (21519)10/20/1999 11:36:00 PM
From: paul  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 64865
 
RAS is more than just buying cheap parts cheap.

How about adding CPU or Memory on the fly without rebooting - and having those resources brought on line immediately - Sun can do this but Wintel components are hot plug meaning you wont electrocute yourself but you have to halt your application and reboot. How about having multiple I/O paths, fully redundant power/cooling, being able to remotely operate your server - there are over 50 operations in Windows NT that require a reboot - now how does that help RAS?

Reliability and Availability also have a lot to do with having large SMP systems that dont create a management nightmare as applications scale up to 64 processors and Sun is the best at this - Sun's server line also scales from 1 -256 cpu's using their clustering technology. Wintel scales to 4 CPU's at best - clustering? how about 2 nodes and failover only - no scalability when you add an additional node. on-line failure? NT does a pre-emptive reboot when Memory leaks happen (and you will get many memory leaks). Is this at all sounding familiar?