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To: chalu2 who wrote (4474)	10/23/1999 10:29:00 AM
From: pezz	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 6418

Sounds like psyo-babble to me....What evidence do you have to support such a theory? Simply because P follows Q in no way demonstrates that P causes Q. In my family my mother also worked and neither myself nor my sister followed your scenario.... Try again. pez

To: chalu2 who wrote (4474)	10/23/1999 1:58:00 PM
From: D_I_R_T	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6418

I don't believe the in and out groups are determined by who has a mom at home verse who doesn't. My experience was the ins and the outs where based on looks, academic and athletic ability and / or means of your family. For what it's worth from someone who definitely was not in the in crowd. Michael

To: chalu2 who wrote (4474)	10/23/1999 3:17:00 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 6418

chalu2, I think you are missing some key elements to the difference between now and when you were a kid (whenever that was - lol)... and those are mostly economic. These days society has much more economic inequity than was the case even 20 years ago when I grew up. You know, when I was a kid it seemed like everybody was middle class.... not socially, but economically. Today its different - its like the turn of the century... massive wealth is available for some, and not others - and whole groups are being left out. In some ways this transition is artificial thanks to Greenspan pumping up the money supply.... in some ways it can't be helped since entrepreneurs are abundant these days and 20 years ago were not. You could say to yourself, "so what"... more rich people, big deal... but the problem is the middle class has actually deteriorated I believe - where 20 years ago one salary could buy a house and afford kids and family today it can't. This group is worse off than their parents, in the midst of unprecedented wealth for some of the other groups. Once I was flipping the stations on the radio and I overhears a rap song, the words were something like "in the 70s Marvin Gaye used to sing to me, he made me think that black was the thing to be". The point being, that in the past, this group had self-esteem and a positive outlook that is not available today. My point is to be a "have" today means much more than it did 20 years ago. It means happiness, home ownership, family etc. The have nots are unhappier. I believe in this society economics account for most of society's ills. The situation is exacerbated by the religious community professing a lack of god is the issue.