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To: Charles R who wrote (76654)10/24/1999 12:48:00 AM
From: Elmer  Respond to of 1574301
 
Re: "Whatever the push, it seems that for most people it is abundantly clear that Athlon has a very compelling advantage and it will take a pretty major mess-up from AMD to lose this battle - this hasn't happened so far."

Just what is the battle Chuck? I though it was making money? AMD is losing real real bad. It's been losing real real bad for years. It looks like it will keep on losing for as far as the eye can see. Here's the deal...You keep telling yourself that AMD is winning and AMD will keep on losing money. Fair enough?

EP



To: Charles R who wrote (76654)10/24/1999 7:39:00 AM
From: Michael DaKota  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574301
 
"probably getting another 100 MHz or so"

Thing is , whatever MHz the p6 series are on,
their fpu is the weak point now. Intel resembles the old AMD...
Do you see the similarities ?
K6 - K6-2 - k6-3
celeron cacheless - p2/3/128k - Coppermine
Desperately stretching the capabilities of a core with imperfections...weak fpu !!! K6-3 is fast, but its not an option because of its weak fpu . Intel is in the same boat now, with the k7 pulling away miles ahead in every serious high end FPU dependant app of both xeon and coppermine

So even if intel regains the MHz lead for a short period of time (notably when .18 Cu is competing with .25 K7, I said that this would happen ages ago..), it doesnt matter all that much..K7-750's will outperform 766 Cu's etc.

Ofcourse, MHz sells (Jim?), but AMD had MHz lead with its k6 series...and they sold like shit , why? Bad performance in games and fpu dependant apps in comparison with pentium mmx and pII series..so people will take the 16 or 33 MHz and enjoy the (promised by intel, givven by amd) 15% performance increase :)