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To: Elmer who wrote (76711)	10/24/1999 10:17:00 PM
From: david alexander	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572601

When I read your truly idiotic and venting response it is easy to see why so many people hate Intel. You guys have just got to trash everyone that doesn't roll over and play dead. You bore me and I am sure most everyone that wants to discuss investing without your diatribes against AMD.

To: Elmer who wrote (76711)	10/25/1999 12:05:00 AM
From: Cirruslvr	Respond to of 1572601

Elmer - RE: "... How gratifying it is to see you guys scrambling for excusses. AMD doesn't have a business paln, don't you know that by now? The only plan they have is do anything they have to do to hurt Intel... Sell of any division, delay any payments, borrow as much as you can, cut any price, destroy anything you have to, just GET Intel." It is easy to see that you are in DENIAL.

To: Elmer who wrote (76711)	10/25/1999 12:13:00 AM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1572601

Re: you're ignoring all the industry standard benchmarks... Hmmm... maybe just a bit. But the coppermine does seem to be stretched pretty thin. I'd call those benchmarks more of a tie than the blowout victory you seemed to be declaring. On real world apps Athlon holds its own pretty well with PC100 against expensive dual 133 memory buses. Am I correct in assuming that, other than ramping to 800 or 900 MHZ, this is it for Intel until Q3 of next year? Meanwhile Athlon has .18 AL coming this quarter, Virtual channel 133, and DDR coming for Q1. On chip cache, and copper interconnects coming by Q2. And the process guys at AMD should have less of a challenge ramping Athlon than the Intel guys have ramping coppermine (at least, that has been the case so far). Its the celerons and coppermine for portables that I'm worried about. When (if) will faster K6.Xs be coming? Dan

To: Elmer who wrote (76711)	10/25/1999 10:42:00 AM
From: Kevin K. Spurway	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1572601

Why Elmer, you're sounding very frantic in your posts today. Did those CuWITHALOWENDCHIPSETONLYmine benchmarks disappoint you? Does the fact that Intel has resorted to overclocking demo systems worry you? Does the fact that Intel has no working chipset that they can sell at a reasonable price bother you? Does the fact that the PIII platform won't be getting a better process or memory architecture for at least another year worry you, especially when it can barely keep up with Athlon today? Re: "All AMD wants to do is hurt Intel...." Stop your whining. Just because Intel has always had a virtual monopoly doesn't make it their entitlement. This is the same moaning and groaning we heard from American television manufacturers when the Japanese first entered the market. We all know how that story turned out. Face it, Intel is clearly beat on technology for the first time that I can remember. They've opened up their bag of tricks and there's nothing left. Sorry, man. We'll try not to laugh too much over the next year as the gap widens. Coppermine benchmarks.--big disappointment. Coppermine microprocessor--MIA to boot!! <<GGG>> Kevin