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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (77206)	10/26/1999 5:26:00 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1573073

Tenchusatsu RE <<<Ted, <every intc long sees this deal as a bad thing for AMD. Why maintain the pretense at all of an unbiased opinion.> First of all, I never said this is a bad thing for AMD. I said that this is a non-event for AMD.>>> Its true you did not say a bad thing but your spin was that it would not be a successful venture and AMD would not benefit from it. Every intc long who has commented on this potential deal has come in essentially with the same negative spin. Its possible that you have AMD's interests at heart but some how I doubt it. RE <<<Second, yes, MS is the biggest software company in the world. But how do you think they got there? That's right, they have control over the API, the OS, the software "pipeworks," and they've extended that toward bundling their applications with the OS. Heck, they're even calling one of their apps "part of the OS," if you can believe that. If you think that MS can apply the same strategies to the game market, you're totally mistaken, since games are have totally different market dynamics.>>> They didn't have all those things, i.e. control over the API, when they started 20 years ago. The fact that they have them now is evidence of their survival instincts. But my point was that they have the financial resources to buy an Electronic ARTs or a THQI and possibly pull off a reasonable entry into the gaming business. I figure they have the same odds...decent but not great...as intc has in its attempt to enter the networking business. RE <<Third, money does talk, but Sony and Nintendo have a lot of it. And who do you think will devote a larger chunk of their corporate budgets toward the home game market? Sony or Microsoft?>> I don't know. How do you know? For both it would be a small part of their total business plan. I know that msft is desperately looking for new sources of revenue and may turn out to be the more committed (finacially or otherwise) participant. RE <<And finally, I think you really ought to address your severe bias against Intel before you accuse me of doubting MS' game venture just because of some anti-AMD bias of mine. After all, a guy who thinks Intel's very existence in CPUs is questionable really ought to come back down to reality.>>> Show me where I said intc's very existence in CPUs is questionable? Furthermore, assuming that I did have such a bias, why do I need to address it...I am neither long intc nor a regular poster on the intc thread. On this issue I will reiterate what I have said before because apparently you missed it; I have no bias against intc....it is simply another potential investment. Where I do have a bias, if you want to call it that, is with the intc long posters on this thread. When intc could do no wrong, the AMD longs were ridiculed without restraint. I was amazed when I first lurked this thread at the attitude of the intc longs that caused them to believe that they had license to say whatever they wanted. It was not unlike inviting someone to your house and having them pee on your floor. The only difference is that they were not invited....because this is a public forum and obviously an invitation is not required. Now that it is clear that intc is not invincible and does screwup, the attitude has turned ugly....not unlike the bully on the school playground. Both approaches suck in my opinion. Enough so that even a bias as subtle as yours can be disturbing. But to answer your question, its not my bias (should I have one) that needs to be addressed. Far worse than a bias is the mentality and attitude of the some of the intc posters which permits them to realize such great pleasure at denigrating and humiliating others. In a word its sick. If anything concerns you, it should be that. Why doesn't it? ted