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To: Stephen L who wrote (111)	10/26/1999 5:59:00 PM
From: Frank A. Coluccio	Respond to of 1782

re: Next Generation Internet, and Internet2 [NGI and I2] Stephen, Actually, discussions on I2 and NGI are not off topic here. On the contrary. I would hope that more discussion on those subjects take place here over time. There are two different initiatives which you may be referring to: There is the Internet2, or I2, project, which is a collaboration of supercomputing entities in education and scientific research, just like the original 'net began, and then There is the Next Generation Internet initiative, or NGI. A board was set up here in SI that was supposed to highlight these initiatives, but it appears to have fallen behind lately, and degenerated into non-use [and worse]. In any event, it is at: Subject 24461 I suggest that you read through that thread for a primer. Maybe you can skip some of the fluff, and focus on the meat. It should provide the beginnings of some good background, in addition to the sites I list below. The Next Generation Internet, or NGI, can be found at: ngi.gov And from: internet2.edu : Internet2 is a collaborative effort by more than 120 U.S. universities, working with partners in industry and government, to develop advanced Internet technologies and applications to support the research and education missions of higher education. Internet2 is a project of the University Corporation for Advanced Internet Development (UCAID). ---------------- Each of these initiatives has multiple sub-initiatives. I suggest that you and other interested readers of this thread review the links I've provided above, and then come back with questions for further exploration. Note that some of the links in the original threads which are cross referenced have become outdated, but the refreshed url's are once again cited in the links that I have provided above. Reading these will serve to level the playing field, a bit, allowing us to have a more fulfilling discussion. [Besides, I have not refreshed on this topic in a while, myself. smile] OK? Regards, Frank Coluccio

To: Stephen L who wrote (111)	10/26/1999 8:06:00 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1782

Re: Internet 2, NGI and CANARIE Hi Stephen, In addition to the information that Frank provided, it would be worth your while to check out the system being engineered by CANARIE up in the North country. I'm not at my own puter at the moment so cannot provide a URL. At CANARIE, one of the resident researchers is Bill St. Arnaud. He has written a very thorough white paper on bleeding edge networking in Canada and it would be well worth your while to read. HTH, Ray

To: Stephen L who wrote (111)	10/26/1999 9:17:00 PM
From: ftth	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1782

There is also vBNS (very high performance Network Backbone Service) dedicated to service research and education facilities. Here's a piece of an article I just OCR'd from 7/98 IEEE spectrum: What about NGI and Internet2? There is a great deal of confusion, both within the high- performance networking community and among the public at large, about the differences between the vBNS, the Next Generation Internet (NGI), and Internet2. One source of this confusion is the overlap in the projects' goals. All three projects are attempting to equip the top R&E institutions in the United States with high- performance networking and to advance the state of the art in networking technologies. Another source of confusion is the web (pun intended) of relationships that inter-connect the organizations involved in all three projects. The NSF is part of the multi-agency NGI initiative, as well as the sponsor of the vBNS and the High-Performance Connections program. MCI is a party to the vBNS cooperative agree-ment as well as an Internet2 corporate partner. Most universities with NSF grants to connect to the vBNS are also members of Internet2. Some of these universities are also involved in NGI research. There is good reason for all this over-lap. As was noted above, government, academia, and industry all agree that advancing networking capabilities and technology for the R&E community is an important goal. NGI, which was first announced by President Clinton during his 1997 State of the Union Address, is a multi-agency ini-tiative being implemented by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, the National Aeronautics and Space Adminis-tTation, the U.S. Department of Energy, and the National Institute of Standards and Technology-in addition to the NSF and other agencies. One of its goals is to build a network that will deliver at least a hundred times the performance of the current Internet on an end-to-end basis to at least a hundred interconnected NGI participating entities. The vBNS repre-sents the NSFs efforts to meet that goal. Internet2, a project of the University Corporation for Advanced Internet De-velopment, is a collaborative effort by more than 120 U.S. universities. Its aim is to facilitate the development and deploy-ment of advanced, network-based applica-tions and network services in order to sup-port the research and education missions of the hi gher- education community. Internet2 members use existing networks, such as vBNS, to connect members to each other and to other research institutions. (The title of the article is "vBNS: Not your father's internet").

To: Stephen L who wrote (111)	11/8/1999 10:34:00 PM
From: Frank A. Coluccio	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1782

Re: Abilene, NGI, Internet2:. How's it going? Stephen, you asked recently (#111) how the I2 and NGI initiatives were going. Read this snip, and the remainder of the story (url below) and draw your own conclusions. The larger story is not about Abilene, it's about "paying customers." Which do you think are getting priority? Anyhow, they are all in deep dodo right now, and it's not only this carrier. QWST, in fact, from my own clients' experiences has been doing rather well, compared to some of the other so called fiber barons, lately. But not better than the characterization the article depicts. It's getting rough out there. From: cnn.com "But even some high-profile custom orders seem to be falling through. For example, Qwest is the carrier for the Abilene Project, a high-speed research network linking dozens of universities that was announced by Vice President Al Gore last year. Qwest has had "execution and delivery problems getting many of the schools their promised OC-3 links, with some that have placed orders as long ago as February still waiting, says Jeff Crowder, project director for communications network services at Virginia Tech University. A Qwest spokesman says the Abilene orders are taking an average of three months but concedes some have fallen behind because of internal provisioning issues or delays from local carriers.