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To: Rambi who wrote (40706)	10/30/1999 11:04:00 AM
From: jhild	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

Oh Penni, my book of dream interpretations says right here that cuts on your hand that turn into mouths means quite simply that you have a deep desire to be a writer - to speak through your hands. Look right there at the bottom of page 373, right after the discussion of Occam's Razor.

To: Rambi who wrote (40706)	10/31/1999 1:09:00 AM
From: E	Respond to of 71178

A few of thoughts about the dream. Miscellaneous ones. First, in your dream, you fell. (We've all fallen for something here, or for something about being here, haven't we?) The fall cuts into your life line.... The fall could represent a number of things, including what happened to Cobe, whose name is the first word in your post about this dream. A life-line in this dream can represent life, most obviously; and maybe there is a way friendships on SI are like a life-line to us. A cut-into chicken breast ready to be stuffed is easy to see as sexual imagery, of course. (Are we allowed to point out such things in dream interpretations?) It can represent something non-sexual, in any case. It could represent, for example, in dream language, the thought that somebody is about to get screwed. This sexual part is mentioned specifically as not associated with blood. (Menopausal anxieties in the life line?) There occurs a mouth-like slice across your hand, an opening-and-closing mouth. Little tiny shiny things came out of it. I wonder if they represent words. A computer screen shines. Words are tiny, and come out of mouths, figuratively speaking. And words do shine, in their own way. What color were the shiny things, do you remember that, or anything else about them? In the dream your life-line was cut; one can hardly not notice that your life-line is associated with the thread. The thread causes the "mouth" to open, and close. Cobe was, in fact, pulled from the thread (and conversely, the thread from her). In a way, we all felt a sensation of "stitches unraveling," when that happened, I think (and even before, with the unpleasant events that preceded Cobe's thread privileges being pulled, thus controlling her figurative "mouth.") You mention a dentist at the end of the dream. The fact that Cobe's father is a dentist might be a clue that this is a dream containing associations triggered by your emotional identification with Cobe's situation. It seems to me that in this dream there is an assortment of images that suggest anxiety, even fear, about the expressive (word-) life represented by the pull (attraction) of the thread. Of course one's "mouth" on the computer is one's typing hands. A dentist, particularly since one is associated with Cobe, might be a reasonable dream-choice for looking into a "mouth," even if it is the "mouth" of your (writing) hand. Maybe Cobe will add her thoughts when she comes back. Which may be any minute, I think! 'Night, all.

To: Rambi who wrote (40706)	10/31/1999 7:35:00 AM
From: nihil	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

I think there are a few points worth noticing here. When in college, did you lead a "hand to mouth existence?" Obviously, you hand has turned into a mouth, and it has shiny things (teeth) inside (thus the dentist). Your recent manuscript rejection is bothering you (your writing hand is not permitted to speak) -- you feel your lips are being manipulated (the strings attached). Any more details available?

To: Rambi who wrote (40706)	10/31/1999 7:49:00 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

Silly Rambi- the meaning of this dream is obvious, you have been watching too many horror movies with Ammo.

To: Rambi who wrote (40706)	11/1/1999 1:08:00 AM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 71178

Madame Cobalt thinks that the timing of the dream is most suggestive. Recall that you recently received your first rejection letter from your first agent, a very traumatic event in your life. Recall also that this trauma followed shortly on the heels of another very traumatic event in your life, taking your first son away to college. You gave up much to be a stay-at-home mom for your children, and now they are growing up, and you wonder whether you can resume the creative life you gave up when you gave up acting. The people here on DAR believe you have a future as a writer, they encourage you to write, and send things out, which is what you want to do, anyway, but you have to feel doubt upon being rejected, it's only human. You cut along the lifeline, not through it, so in your dreams you tried to extend it, not shorten it. That's the most important thing, all the rest is window dressing. The initial impulse was the truest one, to extend your life, to achieve your goals. The next image, that of the "chicken breast ready to be stuffed or something" is a personal one, it's bizarre to me because I've never stuffed a chicken breast, but I think of it as a creative act, a "giving" act, one would not stuff a chicken breast for oneself, I think, it's the type of thing one would do for guests. I think it means that you are writing for others, not for yourself. Your soul lies naked, and you feel you must do something to it to disguise it, and make it more fancy to please and impress others. Having it sewn up at college is very revealing, you need to work on that. Something you did at college was wrong, it stifled your creative impulses. You went the wrong way. I don' t know enough to know how. The little shiny things being pulled out is also revealing, someone else pulled out your shiny things, they were your shiny things, why did you let him pull them out? Were they good things or bad things? Are you better off with them out? Or would you be better off with them in? And would you have been better off if it were you who took out the shiny things? You have to answer these questions, I think. The part about the man making your hand into a mouth so that others laugh is also very revealing. It's your hand, your life, your mouth, but someone else is using it, again, you are letting others use you for their pleasure and entertainment, but it's not for you, except for whatever satisfaction you get from pleasing others. I have more ideas, but they may be too personal.

To: Rambi who wrote (40706)	11/1/1999 4:36:00 PM
From: E	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 71178

Are we allowed P.S.'s to our interpretations of your dream? I already had my shot, but something in Madame Cobe's interpretation, which I liked a lot, made me think of something else, an elaboration on my earlier thought that the dream contains a lot of language and imagery suggestive of its being to a significant degree informed by feelings associated with SI. (I said in my earlier post, "It seems to me that in this dream there is an assortment of images that suggest anxiety, even fear, about the expressive (word-) life represented by the pull (attraction) of the thread.") Your mention of the "thread" that was associated with opening and closing the cut "like a mouth," was the most obvious clue that the SI threads were referenced. But Cobe pointed out something that just struck me, when she said your life line was not cut across, but along it. On it. So, in the way dreams sometimes drop hints, that may have been another verbal hint (dreams give lots of those) of the "thread" type. The cut was not across, but on (the) line. "On line." I particularly liked Cobe's series of questions in the last couple of paras about the shiny things; and also about others laughing, but not you, as someone uses "your hand, your life, your mouth." What everyone seems to be struck by is the fact that the hand is the way you are speaking, whether via a "thread" and "on line," or in your other writings, which you have been thinking about recently; or in both. You have such interesting, rich dreams, penni. And you actually remember them. I wish I remembered mine. Sometimes I remember an image or two, usually mundane, or an emotion. Never a developed story.

To: Rambi who wrote (40706)	11/2/1999 7:21:00 PM
From: Crocodile	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 71178

This is NOT a Dream....this is more like a One Act Play Your dream reminded me of something... Not something nice, but something kind of funny in a Crockish way... HOW I (ALMOST) LEARNED TO LIKE SITCOMS.... I cut my hand very badly while working on a wood carving a few years ago... Not a simple cut... a really terrible thing actually. Mr. Croc hastily drove me to the emergency ward of one of our city's hospitals where I was quickly whisked into a room and immediately examined by a surgeon.... Things went something like this... Doc: (after wrapping my arm with a pressure cuff to stop the bleeding) My, this is some cut... really nice and clean though... don't usually see such deep cuts without dirt or sawdust in them... must have been a good, sharp knife that did this... Croc: Oh yeah...it was a real nice sharp knife.. Doc: Let's freeze your hand and see what we can do about this... Croc: Seems unusually quiet around here tonight... what gives? Doc: (injecting local into my hand) It's the Tuesday night sitcom line-up on tv...seems to keep people busy so that they stay out of trouble and don't show up here... well, except maybe for the people that don't like sitcoms... Croc: I see... Maybe I should take up watching tv... Nurse: (sticking head in the room) I'm not going to be able to assist right now... They've just brought someone into the trauma room and we'll need a couple of extra people in there... You going to be OK? Doc: Sure, I think we can do this alone... (turns to me) You think you'll be OK to pump up that cuff to keep the pressure up while I work? Croc: Piece o' cake. Doc: So, how's the freezing... can you feel this? (gives my hand a slight poke with a needle) Croc: SHT!!!!.....Oooooops.....I mean... yeah... I can still feel something... Doc: That's OK... it'll be pretty numb soon... (starts getting all of his stuff ready)... You know, you've cut part of the way through the tendon...but DAMN... you're LUCKY!!...could have been MUCH WORSE...could have cut the tendon to your little finger... Croc: Gee...yeah..you're right... I feel really lucky...;-}> Doc: (starts to stitch up my hand)* Now, you're going to need to exercise this hand after the stitches are out... maybe even need some physio... Croc: Well, I handmilk about 25 goats twice a day... maybe that will be enough, eh? Doc: No kidding? You have goats? That's perfect!... By the way, I just LOVE goat cheese...and feta cheese... especially on Greek salads... Croc: Ahhh..yeah... me too... with Kalamata Olives.. and a nice dressing made from lemon juice, wine and a little sour cream... Doc: Yeahhhhhh..and maybe some hot little peppers on top... Gee... most people can't talk about food when you're stitching them up... In fact, most people get queasy and feel like they're going to pass out... You OK??? Croc: Yeah, I'm fine... no problemo... Doc: Hmmmm... you keeping that pressure level up...we seem to be getting a little bleeding here..... Croc: (taking a quick look at the pressure guage) Hmmm... you're right... pressure is down... pump..pump..pump.... That's weird...nothing's happening.... Doc: What? Try again... Croc: pump...pump...pump... Hmmm... Hey! Look at this!! The black bulb thing has fallen off the end of the hose!! LOL!!! Doc: LOL!! Hey!!...I've never seen that happen before!!...this is NOT GOOD!!! If I touch it, I'll have to scrub again... Croc: (examing the bulb with my good hand) It's OK... I think I can fix it... seems to just screw on somehow... (fiddling with the bulb for a few seconds...) Yep...I think I've got it... pump...pump...pump... Ahhhhh...we're back in business... Doc: That was weird... Croc: I'll say... Doc: (finishing up as the nurse sticks her head into the room to ask if he can come to assist in the trauma room) Well, I should run... but before I go... I've got to tell you something... Croc: What's that...? Doc: You are just about the......uhm.....silliest person I've ever worked on...but I mean that as a compliment... it's actually been kind of fun! (grins, waves and bows slightly as he backs out of the room) Croc: mumbling to self - Gee... I think I actually would have preferred an episode of Frasier...