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To: Dan3 who wrote (33489)	10/31/1999 11:14:00 PM
From: richard surckla	Respond to of 93625

Dan3: >>Sorry if I'm getting a bit wound up on this, but I really think that an attempt is being made to quash a good, inexpensive technology and substitute an inferior, more expensive technology - and I find that appalling.<< Gee Dan, when you get upset like this then I know Rambus is on solid ground and on the way to making new highs!!! Thanks for the pre-warning!!!

To: Dan3 who wrote (33489)	11/1/1999 2:53:00 AM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 93625

Dan, you are basing all of your points on shaky ground: 1) If "it's the latency, stupid" as many anti-Rambus fanatics claim, then why should DDR make any significant difference in real-world application benchmarks over PC133, since all DDR does is increase bandwidth without changing the latency? 2) Anand already proved that Virtual Channel technology makes virtually no impact in the performance of PC133 SDRAM. ( anandtech.com ) 3) DDR may be smaller in die size than RDRAM (but how much smaller remains to be seen), but the pin count is rather large for DDR memory chips and controllers. And it remains to be seen whether the electricals of a 266 MHz stubby bus are easier or harder to implement than an 800 MHz continuous Rambus channel. (To be sure, it does seem kind of hard to match the magnitude of the problems that plagued 820.) 4) Speaking of pin count, 840 demonstrates that it's relatively easy to move from a single RDRAM channel to dual channels. Try doing that with DDR and the up-to-200 pins it requires per channel. (And Micron said that 840 is "fast as hell.") 5) Intel isn't going to write-off Rambus. I think that's just plain-old wishful thinking by the anti-Rambus folks. Rambus continues to play a major role in all of Intel's future product lines. 6) I still haven't seen the real benchmark results that prove DDR is going to be a significant leap in performance over PC133. (You see, I can play the same game of "I doubt it" that the anti-Rambus folks have been playing for quite some time.) Tenchusatsu

To: Dan3 who wrote (33489)	11/1/1999 6:28:00 AM
From: unclewest	Respond to of 93625

Sorry if I'm getting a bit wound up on this i forgive you. for all the jabber about amd and sdram solutions being better than intel and rambus....i wonder why amd has already announced support for rambus for their amd's best processor. Rambus technology addresses a wide range of computer, consumer and communications systems, including system memory, PC graphics, multimedia, workstations, video game consoles and network switches. Announced Rambus-based system products include: AMD chip sets for K7 processors Brocade Communications SilkWorm network switch Compaq Computer Corporation, AlphaServer enterprise computing systems Compaq Computer Corporation, Performance Desktop PCs Dell Computer Corporation, Performance Desktop PCs Evans & Sutherland 3D Visualization Graphics System Fore Systems ESX-2400 network switch and ESX-4800 network switch Hewlett-Packard Kayak XM600 Workstation and XU800 Workstation Hewlett-Packard Vectra VL600 Corporate PC Intel Corporation 820 Chipset for Performance Desktop PCs Intel Corporation 840 Chipset for Workstations National Semiconductor Corporation future PC processors Nintendo64 3D graphics video game system PixelFusion FUSION(TM) 150 High Performance Windows NT Graphics Chip Sony Next Generation PlayStation(R) System VideoLogic Power VR(TM) Graphics Controller this is only 13 companies... i wonder who the rest are that make up the 75+ companies using rambus technology in their products.