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To: ratan lal who wrote (9286)11/2/1999 1:23:00 PM
From: Tom_  Respond to of 12475
 
Hi Ratan,

Remember, food, clothing shelter. relegion is nowhere to be found....Properly relegious ! novel idea.

I don't know you, Ratan, but I speculate that you might be talking about organized religion rather than spirituality.

Talking about advocates (lawyers): What do you think about overthrowing them?

I don't see this as a problem.
I've already overthrown the lawyer that was in me.

Best wishes,
Tom



To: ratan lal who wrote (9286)11/2/1999 2:04:00 PM
From: JPR  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 12475
 
The Baptists couldn't see a Virgin Mary in KALI
Ratan:
The most offensive passage in the booklet published by the Southern Baptists:

Day 6:
In spite of early missionary efforts and present ministries, Satan has retained his hold on Culcutta through KALI and other gods and goddesses of hinduism. it is time for Christ's salvation to come to Culcutta...."

JPR's Note
Durga / Kali
Characterization of KALI for the spiritually oriented, who can see beyond the appearance and looks for real meaning of an image

Durga is the second aspect of the Kali Trinity. Kali in Hindu spirituality is considered the first divine mother
who manifested three aspects of herself as Creator, Preserver, and Destroyer. Her multiple arms represent her ability to manage the many responsibilities of life: Body, Mind, and Soul.

JPR's Note
Durga / Kali: Exposition of KALI to the every day devotee, by way stories, anecdotes etc. But the meaning derived is the same as the one received by the spiritually oriented.
The gods could not defeat the buffalo-demon Mahisha. So they turned to Shiva who advised all the devas to release their shaktis (spiritual prowess) locked within their bodies. The shaktis of the gods emerged in female form Shivani from Shiva, Vaishnavi from Vishnu, Brahmani from Brahma, Aindri from Indra, Kaumari from Kumara.
These goddesses fused together in blinding light from which arose a magnificent goddess with many arms.

The gods called this goddess Durga, the invincible one. They armed her with their weapons Varuna, the sea-god, gave her a rope; Indra, the god-king, gave her a thunderbolt; Vishnu gave her a discus; Kumara gave her a lance; Surya, the sun-god, gave her a bow and arrow;
Chandra, the moon-god, gave her an axe; Yama, the god of death, gave her a mace; Brahma gave her a shield; Agni, the fire-god, gave her an axe; Vayu, the wind-god, gave her a conch; Shiva gave her a trident. Thus armed, Durga rode to
the top of a mountain on a lion.

Attracted by her beauty, Mahisha came to the mountain and proposed marriage. "I will marry only he who defeats me in battle," said Durga. Mahisha immediately
attacked the goddess. She hurled many weapons at the buffalo-demon but each time he rose unscathed. Finally she kicked him. Mahisha, immune to the weapons of the gods, succumbed to the touch of her feet. Durga immediately impaled him with her trident and blew her conch in victory.
All the gods saluted this warrior-goddess and celebrated her triumph.

JPR's Note
The beauty of Hindu religion is that every theme is conveyed by philosophical discourses and the same theme is explained to the man on the street by way of stories. The Southeren Baptists understand a parable but NOT Pantheistic doctrines and meanings. Their brains are selectively unreceptive to foreign religious concepts. Some of them are pathological in their thinking and that is why they gravitated to a protective environment & compulsive rigidity of religious ways.
The ignorant hang on to the story and miss the meaning. Southern Batists belong to that ignorant group. It is difficult for them to grasp a concept foreign.