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To: Windsock who wrote (78277)	11/2/1999 2:50:00 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Respond to of 1584088

Windsocker, RE:"You want to acquire an Athlon system? Well, your best chance is to visit "A Guide to Building a PC with an AMD Athlon Processor""... Best Buy had 5 Athlon systems on display, Circuit City had 2, Costco has 2, Office Max and Office depot have them too. None had a FLOPPERMINE system....best way to get one of them is find a genie in a bottle? Jim

To: Windsock who wrote (78277)	11/2/1999 3:25:00 PM
From: Scot	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1584088

Message #78278 from Windsock at Nov 2 1999 2:37PM Kevin the Camp Follower - Re: "Chances are you'll find some nice Athlon boxes to look at, even some 700 MHz machines" You want to acquire an Athlon system? Well, your best chance is to visit "A Guide to Building a PC with an AMD Athlon Processor". amd.com Buy all the parts, making sure to keep your receipts per the Guide, and follow the easy steps 1 through 43. You will probably need the receipts when the box doesn't work. If the OEM's don't want to build boxes, just grab your screwdriver and build your own. Boy! That's Outrageous! I can't believe anyone would be interested in building their own computer. I bet no one has ever done that with an Intel chip....right? I can't believe AMD would want to communicate with its customers!!! Sheesh, that's the best you could come up with??? <gg> Intellabees are really on a roll this week.....I'm sensing some real hostility. Must be the FLOPPERMINE...

To: Windsock who wrote (78277)	11/2/1999 6:07:00 PM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1584088

Hi Windsock; I took a look at the 43-point AMD list of how to build an AMD box, and it looked to me to be the standard list of things to do. In fact, I probably would have cut a few corners... I've put together well more than my share of computers from boards. Hell, I bought bare boards, and ordered the ICs by mail for my first DOS machine. I've assembled at least 8 Intel machines from boards, and that list of 43 steps were pretty much what guys who do this expect. The last time I had to put together machines for a job, I assembled six Pentium II-200s, (if my memory serves me correct), with relatively small amounts of memory and disk. The reason was that they were being used to route FPGAs, and after testing them, I found that the amount of memory had no effect on my application's system speed, nor was the hard drive used for hours at a time. Instead, only the processor speed mattered. So it was a lot cheaper to throw together some number crunching systems than to buy a bunch of complete systems. And after you've done the first one, the next five go together quickly. One of the things I noticed from looking at newspaper ads this weekend, was that the Athlon is the machine that is used with all the power systems. That is, the retailers are using the Athlon as the CPU for a very high percentage of their "performance" systems. On those systems, they are putting all the latest and greatest (and most expensive) DVD readers &c., and it is running up the costs. If I had to have workstations to do a special purpose job that involved a lot of number crunching, I have no doubt that Athlons would be what I would choose. -- Carl