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To: maouse who wrote (1628)11/3/1999 8:59:00 PM
From: Berry Picker  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 4775
 
Maouse... nothing in this verse says what you think it says..

24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

What you think it says is "because you have chosen to believe therefore you have eternal life"

What it does say is " IF you can hear my word and you believe in the Ftaher who sent me YOU (already) HAVE ETERNAL... Nothing says because

Two verses earlier Jesus already explained and said that
HE GIVES LIFE to whom HE WILLS Look:

John 5:21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.

If you what an example of " BECAUSE " Look:

John 10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

JESUS says: They do not believe BECAUSE they are not sheep.

It does not say 'they are not sheep because they don't believe.'- NOT

So that IF you can HEAR and IF you believe it is BECAUSE you are a sheep and already have been GIVEN ETERNAL LIFE !

RE>> "he who here's My word SHALL believe"<<

He who HEARS means with spiritual ears not just the sound of the words.

RE>>Why did God create man?<<

Do you want to know or just tell me :-}

RE>>For the whatever length of
time man lived before the apple he was GOOD<<

Just how long did you think that was... I tell you it was very very short !

RE>>FAITH is NOT EVEN MENTIONED in Genesis.<<

That is not true... Faith is clearly SHOWN as it is written:

Hebrews 11:4 By faith Abeloffered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.

Hebrews 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

Faith is the only way of salvation even for Noah and Abel in Genesis.

RE>>I'll email you an ebuck)<<

I'll fax you a hundred dollars ! :-}

Adam freely chose to do what God ordained for him to do. Even as these men:

Acts4:27 For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together,
28 For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done.

Maouse... are you open to the truth ? Pray about that last verse !