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To: Charles R who wrote (78481)	11/3/1999 1:10:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1575421

Chuck, <If I am not mistaken, Nintendo has designed RDRAM out and DDRDRAM in for the next generation system.> I think you might be mistaken about this, but I can't be sure. However, I'm almost certain that Nintendo won't be using DDR SDRAM, at least not the kind of DDR that is being pushed by the anti-Rambus coalition. In any case, there's still Sony Playstation II which will have two RDRAM chips, each on its own channel. And this system will be debuting in Japan around March 2000 at a price just over $300. Tenchusatsu

To: Charles R who wrote (78481)	11/3/1999 2:26:00 PM
From: Ali Chen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575421

Charles, <Nintendo & Rambus> When people talk about "pricey Rambus memory", I hear it as "pricey RIMMs". The chips themselves may be not too much above core DRAMs (plus royalities, plus extra silicon area for controller). The RIMMs, however, must be manufactured with trace delays matched down to 5ps in propagation time, as per their design reference p4-10. With 170ps/inch and 4" long, it means the thickness uniformity and trace etch must be accurate to better than 0.5% each. Add uncertainties in top coating, variability in soldering, etc... and you may come to some idea as what might it cost to make "compatible" RIMMs. As per remark of our "super-rich-but-retarded" buddy, his remark is again as accurate as a fart at the moon:) The Nintendo already took their part of Rambus charms by having the product delayed by 1 1/2 year, see for example: prismark.com And it runs only at 250MHz, not at 400/800 as Intel wants it...It is quite a bit of a difference. Regards, - Ali

To: Charles R who wrote (78481)	11/3/1999 3:24:00 PM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575421

Chuckles - re: "Nintendo has designed RDRAM out " Wait !! Designed it OUT ?? You knew it was designed IN ? Then you posted that it was TOO EXPENSIVE to even BE in games ? But you KNEW it was DEIGNED IN ? You are yo-yo'ing all around this one, Chuckles !!! In or out? Out or in ? Too expensive, yada, yada, yada..... Paul