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To: steve harris who wrote (78830)	11/5/1999 11:58:00 PM
From: kash johal	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573927

Steve, Re:"FIC sd11" Well thats pretty interesting and very worrying frankly. Most of the Athlon MB's use the Via Southbridge chip and FIC has been by far the most visible AThlon MB vendor recently. Hopefully the dumbshits that run AMD will get the message and ramp up AMD's own chipset and MB offerings. I suspect that Intel is so worried about the AThlon that they will now resort to litigation across the board to scare the daylights out of the Taiwan MB guys. Even if Intels actions are unwarranted and they lose in the courts these type of actions take months/years to resolve. I hope that AMD has been burning the midnight oil on the MB/Chipset issues - but i remain sceptical. regards, Kash Johal

To: steve harris who wrote (78830)	11/6/1999 8:35:00 AM
From: Bill Jackson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573927

Hi Steve; So Intel is opening up it's patent armamentarium for a few selective shots at a few people? I wonder if such a selective approach will enjoy much success? It will certainly take several years to go to the end stage and so will not impact them now...unless they get a chilled feeling and stop. Taiwanese are not like that, they will keep going and when they finally lose(if they do) abandon that shell company and carry on elsewhere. This reminds me of the actions of Hitler in WW2 when he started to bomb London. He felt sure this would bring England to her knees. Instead it angered the people and unified their spirit and even the communist unions came out against him, and more importantly the aircraft factories just loved this respite and soon churned out enough planes to destroy Hitlers dream of an invasion. So there will soon be an overiding hatred of Intel among all the mobo makers and it will spur development of alternative ways of doing things. It will also in terest the FTC, esp if Intel refuses reasonable license terms for their patents. Bill

To: steve harris who wrote (78830)	11/6/1999 3:19:00 PM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573927

Re: does iNTEL believe they own PC133 EVERYTHING? I'm actually a bit worried about Intel at this point. If they are suing VIA for this chip they may as well sue Apple and SUN, who are both also using PCI, USB, serial and parallel ports, etc. This latest move, coupled with the cancellation of a celeron price cut, theregister.co.uk may signify that there are yield problems with Coppermine and that Intel is getting desperate to evade its competition(remember how tough it was for AMD to get decent yields of the K6-III when they increased the on die L2 cache?) If much of Intel's FAB space has been shifted to a process/processor that isn't yielding expected product, they may need to push up celeron prices to cover costs - and this can't be done without providing AMD and VIA with an unexpected influx of cash - and an AMD with resources must be a pretty scary concept to Intel, considering what AMD has been achieving on a (relatively) shoestring budget. Regards, Dan