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To: Valley Girl who wrote (33017)11/8/1999 3:25:00 AM
From: Duane L. Olson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74651
 
Valley Girl, Sounds like your have done your homework on this one. And you helped me decide what to do in the morning...so thanks.
Did you take into account the change in the Microsoft business model which would come from the loss in options value of a prolonged "lethargy" in MSFT stock? Without the continued value of the formerly enourmous attraction of the options package, won't MSFT have to either pay more in cash, or cut back on employees at some point?
If so, wouldn't the effect on earnings be negative -- if not immediately, then eventually?
I hope you can find a way to deal with the tax consequences of anything you have to do on a rational basis -- your plight is another good reason that capital gains taxes should be eliminated in the U.S.
Our current capital gains laws, at least in this case, impose the consequences of the Company's actions upon the shareholders.... I can't see that as being fair.
Being no fan of the illegal aspects of MSFT's behavior, still, I can't help but believe that Microsoft is something akin to being a national asset:thataspect should be considered, as well as shareholder impact, when looking for (the minimum nececessary) remedies which will ensure that MSFT acts within the spirit and intent of the laws in the future.
Good luck to you on your decisions... thanks for helping me make mine.
tso



To: Valley Girl who wrote (33017)11/8/1999 3:51:00 AM
From: Kevin Hay  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 74651
 
VG, thanks for posting that. I pretty much agree with
all you said.., except the tax comment. Assuming it's
all long term, it's 20%, yes? As a long term holder you
get extra leverage by holding onto irs money while it
continues to grow in your account, but if the growth assumptions
of the stock change, best to get out.

I'm not sure I'm as pessimistic as you on the price though.

To me it's a given that msft will have to change it's licensing
practices, minimum. so what does that mean?
1. some time in the next year or two it will become easier
to get different software from the oem's. os, probably apps too.
2. this will result in 'some' market deterioration in, say
2-3 years. (small % imo)
3. running the business will get more cumbersome.., so perhaps
a small addition to g&a to account for the extra auditing
that will be required to ensure box makers aren't scamming
them on units shipped, etc.
I really don't think there'll be some huge settlement, so for
the next 3-5 years I see virtually no hit to earnings..,

past 3-5 years, what might happen vs. what is the current
expectation of what will happen is what will drive the price
imo. most companies with this kind of visibillity, would
do fine, but we've got a Clint Eastwood judge and msft
making his day, so there's no telling how far he might try
to go..., uncertainty.., bad.

for me, Friday was shock, Saturday was anger, Sunday was
acceptance (to a degree) and now Monday we say, act?

the msft I have I've held since '92, and I know the feeling
of not wanting to write the big check to the IRS, but a smaller
check just means smaller gains.

long enough post.., will stop for now. thanks again for your post.

-k

ps. if you want humour, look at cherylw's posts. I'm not
trying to be mean, but they really did get me rolling.



To: Valley Girl who wrote (33017)11/8/1999 11:17:00 AM
From: art slott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74651
 
Valley Girl, you sure are right about Wall Street playing that "Liars Poker" game. Like penguins(CNBC parlance) analysts came out with the calls we had to expect from companies that derive fortunes in IB and M&A fees from MS while holding very large long positions.