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To: Neocon who wrote (1314)	11/9/1999 5:55:00 PM
From: Zoltan!	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3246

Great. Did you read the Weinberger piece from today's WSJ? I agree that Yalta tarnishes FDR greatly, earning him a place much lower. FDR was delusional about Stalin and his vanity cost US big time.

To: Neocon who wrote (1314)	11/9/1999 11:47:00 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 3246

On the artists, I don't see too many objections on this thread, however let me offer a different opinion fwiw. You have: 87. Pablo Picasso 88. Henri Matisse 89. Piet Mondrian 90. Wassily Kandinsky 91. Constantin Brancusi 92. Marcel Duchamp 93. Jackson Pollack 94. Willem De Kooning I would say only Picasso and Duchamp belong from this list, and in fact those are the only two I would include in a top 100 - however, if you are going to have 5+ artists, I would add Johns (although I believe you consider Duchamp as the most influential as a pop artists - ok) Imo some art movements simply are not as influential as others... and from this list Mondrian and Matisse, while they defined a movement, how important was the movement? Matisse I realize is popular, but then so is Lichtenstein for largely the same reasons (size and color) so why not include him? The fauves never really transgressed into other movements, or defined a way of life or way of thinking (as pop art did).

To: Neocon who wrote (1314)	11/10/1999 1:58:00 PM
From: Edwarda	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 3246

Neocon, not to be too picky, re No. 53: In 1959 Robert Noyce, while at Fairchild Semiconductor, constructed an integrated circuit with components connected by aluminum lines on a silicon-oxide surface layer on a plane of silicon. The first commercial integrated circuit was released by Fairchild in 1961. Robert Noyce went on to found with Gordon Moore Intel, the company under whose auspices these three people invented the microprocessor. Noyce and Moore had the vision that made the invention possible.

To: Neocon who wrote (1314)	11/11/1999 1:21:00 PM
From: jbe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3246

A lot of dead white European guys here, Neocon. Only one woman, NOT ONE Asian (unless you count Ataturk), NOT ONE Latin American, NOT ONE African... And the Americans and the Brits account for over half of your nominees. Somehow, I don't think an educated person from Japan, or India, or China, or Kenya, would go along with such a list. In fact, I submit he may never have even heard of such luminaries as G. K. Chesterton, let alone Rogers & Hammerstein or (who's that again?)Barry Gordy. No Gandhi, no Mandela, no Mao or Deng or Sun-Yat-Sen...??!!