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To: jbe who wrote (1319)	11/9/1999 11:50:00 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3246

My point was that the trends that began in the 19th century, of urbanization, industrialization, and mass immigration, did not come to full strength until the 20th century.... I do not think that fascism is the culmination of nationalism, I think it is a danger, and one that came to a head in the 20th century. I think that nationalism and imperialism were, on balance, good things... Marxism is a good example of an idea that had little effect until the 20th century... The imposition of colonial rule left little changed for most natives. It improved the position of some, and degraded the position of others, but the bulk of them continued to live as they had for centuries, with new persons at the top. It took decades of missionary work, educational outreach, and capital development to have a truly broad effect, and most of these effects came in the 20th century.... The globalization of such changes is a great deal of what I have in mind in singling out this century. It is possible that the 20th century will, in the long run, be viewed as transitional, but who knows?

To: jbe who wrote (1319)	11/10/1999 1:18:00 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3246

This is what I would say about the origin of fascism, in brief (from another thread): Fascism is a natural result of a certain strain of ethnic nationalism, that glorifies "organic democracy" and supposes that the Leader is the one best suited to identify and implement the destiny of the Volk. The depiction of the General Will in Rousseau already had these characteristics: a contempt for majoritarianism, and hence electoral politics, a mandate to discover a consensus, and an emphasis on populist leadership to bring the General Will to light. From that, the leap to racism is not very great, since each Volk has its own characteristics and destiny, and there is a natural competition and hierarchy among peoples. Anti-semitism has these characteristics: it makes the question of being a Jew secular, and impervious to assimilation, conversion, or intermarriage; and it identifies an alien presence in the Volk, one that is educated, assertive, and successful when allowed assimilation, and therefore inimical to the destiny of the Volk, because of the potential for undue influence and covert antagonism....