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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (34221)	11/10/1999 7:25:00 PM
From: Jdaasoc	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93625

Tenchusatsu: All it proves is pre-production Vancouver boards mated with current 733 MHz CUMine is slower than Micron DDR test system. The only problem I have is that pre-production Vancouver board with PIII @ 533 Mhz was slower than BX/PC100 combination. I would like to see comparison to the first real world system using RDRAM which is Compaq SP750. Then it would be easy to determine which way to go RDRAM or DDR. Intel has proved that two RDRAM channels is no more costly or difficult to produce than one RDRAM channel. john

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (34221)	11/10/1999 7:46:00 PM
From: wily	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93625

amdzone.com Falcon Northwest On Asus Jeff Tom, Editor-in-Chief Tuesday, November 9, 1999 2:44 p.m. CST The following is an e-mail we received from Kelt Reeves of Falcon Northwest, known for their PC's made specifically for gaming. This discusses the recent topic that has garnered much news coverage lately from AMD Zone (check the latest news and archives for more info), a certain CPU manufacturer using their monopoly over the PC industry to bully Taiwanese motherboard manufacturers into not shipping their Slot A motherboards, and therefore hurting the selection and availability of these motherboards, which of course the Athlon requires to operate. Also as of late, yesterday Asus finally put up a page with the Asus K7M on their website, only to take that webpage down. However, they have not removed it from their German site (thanks Uwe for the link) and I've also taken a screen shot of it for further proof which I'll upload later if this page is also removed. You can discuss this in our message boards. Please also sign the Athlon motherboard petition so we can finally see this motherboard from Asus and from other manufacturers. Here is the e-mail we were sent. Friends, We finally received a precious few K7M rev. 1.04 no-audio boards in from distribution yesterday. This is the product we've been waiting for, and planned on making standard equipment. Some of you even have our review systems featuring an early rev of this board. ASUS has long been running scared from Intel, and this product has been delayed because of it. Now it looks like as a small VAR we may not even be able to sell it. The rumors up on AMD Zone spurred me to ask ASUS point blank. Follow this thread backwards and you'll see that they are mostly true. I hate to burn bridges with them but they have been extremely unhelpful lately and I'm sick of the poor support. I know several of you reviewers have already been provided with this board directly from ASUS for end-user reviews. That kind of bait and switch ticks me off. Feel free to publish whatever of this you feel comfortable with. Sincerely, Kelt Reeves Falcon Northwest -----Original Message----- From: DON SHIEH Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 12:07 PM To: Kelt Reeves Subject: RE: K7M review status? Don't know yet. -----Original Message----- From: Kelt Reeves Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 11:58 AM To: 'DON SHIEH' Subject: RE: K7M review status? So are you still going to ship to distribution? -----Original Message----- From: DON SHIEH Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 11:51 AM To: Kelt Reeves Subject: RE: K7M review status? Kelt, We are shipping K7M to system integrators only at this point. We will continue shipping this product. You may advertise your system but not the motherbaord, since it is not available in the retail channel. We do not intend to support endusers for this product at this point. best regards -----Original Message----- From: Kelt Reeves Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 11:15 AM To: Don Shieh (E-mail) Subject: K7M review status? Don, We have sent the K7M with a couple of our review machines. We just won an Editor's Choice award with it in the December issue of PC Gamer. We are finally starting to get in a few K7Ms from distribution . Now rumors are flying on www.amdzone.com that the K7M has been cancelled, and indeed the K7M page has been removed from the ASUS website. We are planning on sending out more review systems next week for February issue reviews. Should we be advertising the K7M or not? Thanks, Kelt Reeves Falcon Northwest 1500 East Main Ashland, OR 97520