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To: tonto who wrote (24333)11/13/1999 7:55:00 PM
From: TideGlider  Respond to of 26163
 
I don't see how Ray Jay was correct, He said a misunderstanding. No misunderstanding. That is a lie. A blatant lie. RayJay is close but not correct in that case.

TG



To: tonto who wrote (24333)11/14/1999 7:26:00 AM
From: tonto  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 26163
 
Pugs cannot support his malicious claims.

By: Pugs
Reply To: 8459 by Ray-Jay-Johnson Sunday, 14 Nov 1999 at 2:25 AM EST
Post # of 8472


RJ,
just a taste;

Mike,
Regarding the affadavit, I am told it is not a binding document seeing how there is no Notary or court stamp and no witness signature. What is your take on this?
Also does Zapara own Alexis?
What is the name of Meyers company?
What services does Meyers company provide to Alexis?

Thanks,
Paul
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Subject: Re: RMIL
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:20:59-0060
From: Michael Kugler<mkugler@XXX.XXX
To: gXff@XXXX.XXX
References: 1

Paul,
I will reiterate, Mork has never lied to me. I am sure he will provide you with a witnessed, notarized, signature guaranteed affadavit if necessary. I am convinced he is not lying here.
Zapara owns Alexis (his daughter's name). I don't know what Mayer's company name is, but my understanding is that he does what Zapara does, promote stocks.
In terms of what Zapara did to Mork, all I can tell you is that even his former business partners (and others) have told me....he'd do anything for a buck. Some of the companies whith whom he has done business ahve threatened to kill him. There are a couple of deals in WHICH HE SOLD STOCK FOR COMPANIES, PROMISING TO SPLIT THE MONEY WITH THEM. Check out VHS Enterprises, and Amazon Treasures. And there are others. THe SEC and the Justice Department would have a field day with him IMHO.
You may want to talk to Jim Grant, who is now manager at Shawnee Country Club, 405 XXX XXXX. He'll open your eyes a bit. He was a former partner with Zapara. There are others I can turn you on to potentially, but I'd have to clear with them first, if you're interested.

Mike
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So far, Kugler is offering Paul an affadavit from Mork to swear he was only short because Zapara dumped.
Now...Kugler is a broker. He is soliciting stock from a long, for a shortseller, knowing that Mork shorted against Zapara's stock and , according to his own email, how Zapara obtained the stock that Mork shorted against. Being a broker, Kugler is OBLIGED to give info to the NASD, did he? Did Tod Pauly dump on Kuglers' "inside info"?


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Where is he soliciting stock? It does show that Kugler was providing information that does not help Zapara in the least
and clearly is negative.
_____________________

bigs buffer saved on Mon Jan 12 21:09:26 1998
bigs: he called and wanted me to take over his line of questioning to Weber
johniii: you are sh*tting me aren't you?
bigs: then he wanted to know about my family and vacationing habits
johniii: oooohh?
bigs: said I could use his CONDO for free
bigs: NO SH*T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
johniii: thisis crazy.
johniii: did you have your recorder on?
bigs: THIS GUY IS UPTO HIS NECK IN SH*T !
johniii: I think he may be off s.i., for now anyways.
johniii: maybe you can play with him
bigs: I DON'T HAVE ONE
bigs: WISH I DID, I'M GOING TO NAIL HIM
______________________________________

RJ,
there's plenty more, all documented, in the hands of the authorities and our lawyers. Martin is full of craP like his drool case associate Tod Pauly, I can document every claim I make.

Pugs


In no way can Pugs try to twist his story to become anything criminal. Uh-oh... The above cannot even be considered tidbits. Pugs has no proof. It is very clear.
Paul makes it clear he was not offered anything but the use of the condo if he came to Wisconsin. That was a very generous and kind offer made by Kugler and gives real insight as to who he really is which is nothing like Pugs and his cronies have tried to convince via their false posts. The malicious intent is clear.

Once again, here is what Paul states:

Hello Todd,

I would like you to post the following message to SI or RB.

I in no way was ever offered a bribe to sell my RMIL shares from anyone!

The conversation i had with the person in question was in no way, shape or form a solicitation for my shares.
The conversation focused first on RMIL and it's management, and then turned to a personal nature, any misinterpetation of the conversations meaning was mine and mine alone. I am deeply sorry for any confusion about that, and wish to appologize in public to the people it has caused pain to.


Post the crimes you state we are guilty of Gary Dobry. We know you won't, because you can't.



By: Pugs
Reply To: 8470 by Pugs Sunday, 14 Nov 1999 at 2:34 AM EST
Post # of 8472


RJ,
One more point....Kugler KNOWS Zapara sold stock to split . At AZNT he conspired with Charlie Kricfalusi to do this. If Kugler knew this, as his email demonstrates, why, when he is a broker OBLIGED to inform the NASD of inside info, did he instead opt to assist a shortseller and solicit long shareholders for stock. Also recall, tonto, Tod Pauly wa refering longs to Patterson, where Mork was short and also rallying longs to piggy-back on Morks lawsuit against Morgan & Breton.
Martin & tonto could rah-rah for Kugler all day, but it only counts in court. I kept everything. Lawyers and the authorities have it. Prove me wrong in court.
RJ, don't be so quick to agree until you see all the evidence. I only posted a tid-bit...there's tons more!

Pugs


Pugs will be obligated to prove his libel. It is not the other way around. Uh-oh...



By: Pugs
Reply To: 8466 by alert1 Sunday, 14 Nov 1999 at 2:58 AM EST
Post # of 8472


Martin, you freak! LOL...the only ones "suckered" were you and you short happy comrads and bashing broker buddies. Paul/Bigs 'staged' that fight with me to see if Kugler was for real....What d'ya think he found Martin?

Session start: Thu Mar 26 21:33:07 1998

BIGS: Pugs was bashing me today?
johniii: he did today
johniii: hadn't for awhile.
johniii: seems he puts you in Kugler's camp.
BIGS: well like I said, from his point of view i can't blame him.
BIGS: at least we know he's real in his convictions.
BIGS: hopefully we all make a bundle
johniii: it worked well on his part, wish kugler had the same convictions.
BIGS: and i'll be glad to start the party off by letting Gary punch me out! :-)
johniii: it won't come to that
BIGS: no soul=no convictions
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Paul/Bigs, staged a 'fight' between me and himself, he got a lot of info from Kugler, then turned it over to me and others. It was very important stuff and very telling.I believe, as a group, RMIL shareholders, including Riley G, have done what the FBN phoneys only claim to do, they're busy defending the slime mentioned in these posts.

Pugs

Pugs