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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (92554)	11/15/1999 10:51:00 PM
From: Gary Ng	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Jim, Re: The K6-Xs ran well compared to the Pentium II-IIIs when using 3Dnow. Something tells me Intel used SSE optimized benchmarks... As before, I would advice you to leave these technical stuff to someone else, it is not your area :-) BTW, should you listen to me a week or so before and switch your INTC to AMD, you could make some nice little profit instead of watching AMD zoomed and exit your INTC around 75. Gary

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (92554)	11/15/1999 11:03:00 PM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Re: "Something tells me Intel used SSE optimized benchmarks..." Really??? Sysmark does not use the Intel Compiler Winstone High End does not use the Intel Compiler Winstone Business does not use the Intel Compiler CPUmark* 99?Win98 does not use the Intel Compiler Wintune 98 Advanced CPU Integer Test?Win98 does not use the Intel Compiler MultimediaMark 99?Win98 does not use the Intel Compiler 3D Winbench 99?3D Lighting and Transformation Test?Win98 does not use the Intel Compiler 3DMark 99 MAX?Synthetic CPU 3D Speed Test?Win98 Does not use the Intel Compiler WinBench 99?FPU WinMark* 99?Win*98 Does not use the Intel Compiler This phoney excuse is so old and so worm out that I am surprise you would embarrass yourself by using it. Furthermore did you notice the RamBus chipsets show a dramatic improvement in FP going from the 440BX to the i8x0, even when both use the SSE extensions? In fact the 667MHz i840 has a 25% SpecFP95 advantage over a 700MHz 440BX based system, even though both use SSE and it's running at a 5% slower clock? Looks to me as though the RamBus technology has a lot more to do with performance improvement than any SSE extensions. Come to grips with it. CuMine beats Athlon with or without the Intel Compiler. EP

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (92554)	11/15/1999 11:39:00 PM
From: Haim Barad	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Jim McMannis - "Something tells me Intel used SSE optimized benchmarks..." Jim, In some (not all) you are correct. Now here's a thought - what is wrong with that? NOTHING! AMD chose to separate here and create their own (i.e. 3DNOW) extensions which many AMD-types said was superior. Now you think that Intel performance using SSE is "cheating" - give me a break. (ok, you didn't say "cheating" - but you imply something is wrong with that). Fact - D3D is optimized for both Intel (using SSE) and AMD (using 3DNOW) processors. Are they both cheating? Maybe Intel should be limited to the instruction set from the 386? Maybe they shouldn't use any innovations? Geeeessshhh! By the way, SSE and 3DNOW will play a role (For BOTH companies) in 3DWinbench and 3DMark benchmarks. I believe that 3DWinbench2000 is out (or will soon be) - anyone here any scores? Haim