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To: Ilaine who wrote (41933)	11/16/1999 11:32:00 PM
From: Gauguin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

Well thought and presented. You modern thinker person. To me you seem exactly right. Maybe that IS why people seem more real here, because we can see them clearly, without encumbrance, through their words and actions. It's like meeting "The Form" of people. Money doesn't matter, clothes, car, position, appearance ~ all that goofy crap. (Where I also happen to fall behind! Hee hee.) You're right. That's really neat. It's Samuel Colt making all people equal. Pain was making me lose sleep and any interest in posting, and we've had to up the codeine for me to be able to stand and sleep, and it isn't enough, and I can tell it's taking the edge off of my mind, if there was one, and I feel stupid. Not my self. And as opposed to not wanting or being able to post, I have nothing I can do except lie here. That's not a complaint, so much, as a warning. I'm on the substitution list.

To: Ilaine who wrote (41933)	11/17/1999 12:40:00 AM
From: Jacques Chitte	Respond to of 71178

> Some people, who shall be nameless here on DAR, have argued that all we know about each other is what we tell each other. < I accept the verity of that statement. What humanizes it for me is that there are worlds between what we tell each other and what we INTEND to tell each other. Even the driest, sparest poster here engages in incidental self-disclosure. Allow me to develop an extreme example. Some in the 'Shop (my turn to not name names) lie like cheap toupees on a regular basis, but HOW they lie is a form of self-disclosure. And some of the lies are durn fine tales in their own right. You say "You can tell me you are kind, but if you attack others constantly, you are not kind. You can tell me you are educated, but if your posts are constantly ill-informed, you are not educated." To me this supports the idea that what we want to say and what we end up saying are not an equation. 'course I am blithering now ... I'm at 20000 feet without oxygen thanks to prescription medications. >Age, sex, race, education, income< Getting more of it, getting less of it, don't, got plenty, got barely enough. (couldn't resist)

To: Ilaine who wrote (41933)	11/17/1999 4:31:00 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 71178

>Some people, who shall be nameless here on DAR, have argued that all we know about each other is what we tell each other.< All we know about people IS what they tell us- if someone never posts we will not know they exist. It doesn't mean we have to believe the literal truth of what someone says to "know" them. Some lies are as revealing as the truth- but NOT all. And you only know one aspect of the person on the net. I like the aspect, but it is too simple to say who we are here is who we are. I don't agree with that. I am not who I am here. And I know that is true of several other people. Sometimes who we are in cyber space is who we wish to be, and sometimes, it seems, people are cursed with being their worst hidden selves. I am sure a few people are the same as they are in 3d- and I am sure these persona reflect our inner selves better than our 3d selves do- but that is not who we are. We are not merely our thoughts we are also our behaviors. So while my thoughts lead me one way, my behavior often leads me another way. And if you know me only by my thoughts and what I tell you of my actions- then I have given you a carefully selected version of who I am. If you could observe me you would be able to make a better, or at least a different, judgment. I also don't think you can overlook the fact that some people are tremendously good liars. I don't think there is much of a way to detect those people on the net- and since those people tend to be very clever one must assume they are on the net.

To: Ilaine who wrote (41933)	11/17/1999 2:50:00 PM
From: CharleyMike	Respond to of 71178

I'll just print that one, if ya' don't mind, and put the hard copy in my manila folder. May have to change the tab from: "Gaugies Stuff" to "Gaugie's & Coby's Stuff". Or, maybe; "Stolen Thoughts" since they're yours to think and only mine to ponder.