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To: spliff who wrote (34888)	11/19/1999 5:04:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93625

<INTC to have ddr on the desktop? when? anyone know?> Short answer: Probably not for quite a while. As for the article itself ( ebnonline.com ), I think there are a lot of minor inaccuracies with their details on Intel's upcoming chipsets. Here's a quote, however, that directly relates to my work: An Intel 870 server chipset that is in development as a DDR SDRAM-based successor to the Profusion chipset for high-end four- and eight-processor systems. According to sources, the 870 may also be the chipset that supports the upcoming 64-bit Itanium (formerly Merced) processor and DDR SDRAM. Intel last week confirmed that the Itanium has always been slated to support SDRAM, dismissing published reports that it had only recently switched to an SDRAM interface after dropping Direct Rambus DRAM from its 64-bit processor roadmap. The second paragraph is right on target. In fact, I already mentioned on these forums that 460GX (first Itanium chipset) has always been an SDRAM chipset, never RDRAM. The first one, well, the only thing I'll confirm is the project name. Yes, there will be an 870 server chipset. It is being developed by the same group that developed the 460GX. That is all for now. Tenchusatsu

To: spliff who wrote (34888)	11/19/1999 5:43:00 PM
From: Orion	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93625

Spliff, This article dated November 3th put a date on the DDR PC266 SDRAM use in server, NOT BEFORE 2001. This seems to confirm "not for tomorrow indication" of Tench. May be he will confirm. Orion techweb.com Solano Chip Set To Take On PC133 SDRAM (11/03/99, 7:25 p.m. ET) By Jack Robertson, Electronic Buyers' News The first chip set from Intel to support PC133 SDRAM will be the Solano, an upgraded device from within the Intel 810 chip set family that will debut in January, not a new chip set code-named Amador, as has been widely rumored on Wall Street, sources close to the matter said on Wednesday. Separately, Intel will formally introduce the Camino, or Intel 820, chip set Nov. 15, offering support for Direct Rambus DRAM in desktop PC platforms. The company confirmed that the rescheduled launch will include only a two-socket RIMM configuration, instead of the three-socket version that triggered the chip set's latest delay in September. Camino will support PC100 SDRAM -- not PC133 -- but only by using an extra Memory Translator Hub on the motherboard. It will be left to the Solano to add a PC133 interface to the memory subsystem; the chip set will also include a 133-MHZ front-side bus that supports Celeron and Pentium processors. Industry sources said Intel has accelerated the Solano introduction by several months to meet demand for the new, faster SDRAM interface. Additionally, in the wake of its recent decision to support all major memory architectures coming into next year's market, Intel is said to be developing a full-blown PC133 chip set that will support an external graphics card, AGP 4X graphics port, and frame buffer memory up to 32 megabytes -- and eventually 54 Mbytes -- in density. The faster AGP 4X port is included in the rival Apollo Pro133 chip set now being sold by Taiwan-based independent chip set vendor Via Technologies. It wasn't known if the follow-on PC133-enabled chip set is the rumored Amador, although the device isn't expected to be ready until much later in 2000. Yet another upcoming Intel chip set will support double-data-rate PC266 SDRAM for servers, but sources said the product won't be unveiled until early in 2001.