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To: Gerald Walls who wrote (92964)	11/22/1999 8:47:00 PM
From: Jeff Fox	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Gerald, re:"I'd even buy at the current price if the Telco Morons could deliver me DSL, but they can't" This is EXACTLY what the fuss is all about! <rant restarted> So - Tell your telco "thank you very much" and find you a energetic competitor to service you. This is exactly what I am pursuing. If Flashcom does it then I'll sing their praises here If not Flashcom then perhaps InReach wants all the business; I think they now have the right to have it. My case is sounds very similar to yours. So I want a service company to fix it instead of excusin' about it. This is 1999 after all, and all that's needed is for a technician to install some "Cisco" shoebox in my neighborhood distribution panel. This candidate "superman" provider will just send out a person to drop this thing in and wire up the 10 to 50 of us that want DSL - then take a few of the freed up twisted pair and do a point-to-point wideband back to the CO. At the CO they will say, "Excuse me, but mind if I put this rack over there?" while waiving the FCC ruling briskly about. They will then terminate their wideband onto a "Cisco" router to UUNET. DONE! While they are at it this "foreign" equipment rack will terminate dozens of similar mux'ed back haul's from other remote neighborhoods as well as hundreds of direct RADSL direct lines from customers located within the three mile DSL service radius. With a little sales fervor I bet such a completitor will have a huge chunk of all local subscribers in service before the telco can make it to their next pay phone rate hike hearing :-) So this is G.lite DSL and no phone under. Well don't really care because the telco will bring me phone on my SECOND wire pair as they do today. Do I care whether its on separate copper as opposed to "under" DSL? NO! Why - the phone co will charge me the SAME RATE for phone dial tone regardless of the method used. Why should I care given the fees are the same? <rant off> Jeff

To: Gerald Walls who wrote (92964)	11/22/1999 8:54:00 PM
From: John F. Dowd	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

GW: The FCC isn't going to get anyone to move any faster than they are at present. All the CLEC's are going for the same market that the telcos want-high density markets. Those who live in low density suburbs can wait. Your best bet will be cable. This is all economics. Number of phones passed by the line. Fastest amortization of new equipment over the number of phones served.JFD

To: Gerald Walls who wrote (92964)	11/23/1999 2:02:00 AM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Re: "I'd even buy at the current price if the Telco Morons could deliver me DSL, but they can't. The Cable Morons can't get me a cable modem connection either, so I'm stuck with 56K." Isn't COX or US West DSL available out in Glendale? You must be the only place in the Valley of the Sun that doesn't have one or the other. Don't feel too bad though, Silicon Valley is one of the worst covered areas (by high speed Internet access) in the Country. EP

To: Gerald Walls who wrote (92964)	11/23/1999 7:36:00 AM
From: Amy J	Respond to of 186894

OT RE: "I'd even buy at the current price if the Telco Morons could deliver me DSL, but they can't." Hi Gerald, please don't encourage them to keep their prices high - more chips would get consumed if more people had DSL or cable at home. : ) RE: "Telco Morons... Cable Morons can't get me a cable modem connection either" I tend to use this "telco" players to denote high-tech companies (Sun, Intel, Cisco, etc.) as it relates to their recent telco thrusts, and of course, LU. Thanks for the correction on the DSL ruling. Regards, Amy J