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To: Roebear who wrote (55405)	11/24/1999 9:05:00 PM
From: Think4Yourself	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 95453

I have been following your weather posts with interest, and understand what you are saying. My question is basically a net energy issue. Assuming the same energy is hitting the earth as usually does this time of year (may be a bad assumption), the record warmth we are experiencing has to come from somewhere. I am not hearing of any parts of the planet experiencing abnormally cold weather so I am wondering if this heat is coming from the Pacific Ocean? If it is, I am wondering what the ramifications might be as the ocean currents get even colder? I am pretty ignorant on this area, but am becoming more and more motivated to learn as this disturbingly warm weather continues. It sounds like you are telling me that warm air is just getting redirected here by the positive NAO. If so, where would it otherwise go?

To: Roebear who wrote (55405)	11/24/1999 10:07:00 PM
From: hdrjr	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 95453

Very OT: Roebear, Regarding El Nino, La Nina, and especially NAO: Scientific discovery of these weather oscillations and events is extremely new when considering glacial time. While we are on the verge of the possibility of understanding these events, our data base is so small we are still in the speculative realm. Do not get me wrong I find the information and speculation fascinating and believe we are on the right track of predicting short term weather patterns. I have yet to find any reports with any data that convince me that there is a case for global warming caused by industrialization outside of what has happened throughout the history of earth. Along the gulf coast of Texas on any given day you will find tar balls on the beach. So many that you have to watch where you step. For years I was told by environmentalist and through newspaper articles that this was a direct result of our offshore drilling and/or shipping leaks. Then I discovered that throughout history the gulf floor has leaked oil and that when the Spaniards first landed on the Texas coast the Carancahua Indians used these tar balls for making fires and cooking. The human race has always been arrogant when trying to interpret or understand Mother Earth. We have always thought that our existence was far more important than it actually is. I guess that was enough for a week. Have a good Thanksgiving to all