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To: Michael M who wrote (1983)	11/27/1999 5:09:00 PM
From: jbe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3246

<<During the past couple of decades the most significant shift in "music", IMO, has been emergence of blatantly hostile, "*k you or them" themes.>> Quite true. My late husband, who was anything but a strict disciplinarian, never allowed the kids to play rock music in the house. (Bless him! This meant that I did not have to play the bad guy!) He charged that it was "deliberately ugly" -- and designed to make its hearers deliberately ugly, as well. None of that dissuaded my musician son -- a flutist at the time -- from his ambition to become a rock bass guitarist. I can remember a discussion we had about classical vs. rock music. He (my son) claimed that rock music had a wider range of emotion. I (of course) said that was ridiculous; that it was classical music that had the wider range of emotion. He then came up with what he thought was the trump card: "Yeah! But classical music can't express anger!** Yes, that is what he was looking for then: anger. And the "music" he listened to (when his dad was not around) gave it to him.

To: Michael M who wrote (1983)	11/29/1999 12:08:00 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 3246

There is something to worry about with gangster rap and some of the "avant- garde" gross out singers and groups, like Marilyn Manson. It is not the same as, for example, Alice Cooper. However, these represent a limited segment of the market, and may already have reached their apogee, so it is difficult to gauge what the on- going influence might be.....Rock and roll always tended to include most of pop music of the period after '54. Remember when no one doubted that the Four Seasons, the Ronettes, and Elvis all belonged in the category? Actually, the tendency has been to "thin slice", which is why it can be asserted that country music has outpaced rock. Now, there are stations for "modern rock", "heavy metal", "urban contemporary" (what we used to call "soul"), "MOR", and so forth, plus the mix formats, oldies, and so forth. There are many more stations that play some version type of rock and roll or rhythm and blues, but the country market is not so fragmented....