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To: mark silvers who wrote (28249)	11/29/1999 2:09:00 AM
From: Berry Picker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

You continue to get the Flesh first and the Spirit last ! I have no idea who these elusive and brilliant "christian scholars" are nor do you put forth where they differ from me. RE>>you admit that your translation may be the wrong one(since you have no proof of being the right one) and you run the risk of being eternally tortured by demons in a lake of fire.<< Mark I am not Elect because I got the interpretation right ! I got the interpretation right because I am Elect ! RE>>You say that God would let those who wish and try to follow him, burn because they tried but could not understand<< When did I say this ? Sincerely desiring to follow Christ and to forsake all in order to KNOW HIM is a sign of true election. As it is written: Acts 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. And again: John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. Christ casts out hypocrites and people who consider this a game. Those who are called and chosen will come.... they will not try and be cast out for not understanding some particular verse or point of doctrine. I am not saved because I know the Truth... I know the truth because I was called and saved and filled with the Spirit of Truth. You just don't get it nor will you get it until you stop trying to understand with your carnal mind ! ===Your demand of God is that unless you see with you carnal understanding YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE ! === LOL Romans 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. Your not saved ! How then could you know the Saviour ? Your not spiritual how could you hear things spiritual ? Can someone who has never gone sky diving explain the excitement of your first jump ? Would you go to a lecture on theology given by a man who was speaking Chinese and expect to be impressed if you cannot speak Chinese ? You have to experience actually and absolutely KNOWING for a certainty before you can agree that someone else may ALSO KNOW ! You will not know what it is to KNOW YOU KNOW if you think that men can only "think they know" I KNOW and others who also KNOW will testify that I DO KNOW ! This is Jesus saying this about US ! LOOK. John 3:11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. To you it is just foolish ego and pride and self assertion on my part.. delusions of self importance or whatever else you may dream up to dispel the truth of what I am saying... The issue IS YOU.. that is the problem....you will not believe me or worse Jesus Christ ! You ask me to choose from the only possible three choices there can be in your already hardened and corrupt mind... none of them correct. Then you try to boil the issue down to only an either/or situation again your choices do not contain the truth but to you there are no other choices ! Mark the RIGHT ANSWER evades you because your not capable of looking at the "issue" because YOU ARE THE ISSUE and your incapable of accepting that. You have enough FACTS and PROOF to believe that Jesus both Lived and Rose from the dead ! To believe otherwise is highly illogical. The problem is not LOGIC the problem is that you are caught in very HIGH HANDED self deception and rebellion against Christ ! For that you will be judged ! ======= You are DEAD IN SIN ! ======= For trying to find God and not being able .... You will not be judged because your not really trying. Your a con ! Give me a break.... you are being about as NICE and as DISHONEST at the same time as you can get ! RE>>According to you, theire are Christians who are well meaning<< No according to me there are a lot of people just like you on this side of the fence who will also go to Hell ! They are not honestly dealing with the God, the creator of the world, nor themselves. They have never repented of their sin and hold it very dear. They believe they will be saved merely by believing Jesus was and rose. They do not have saving faith nor are they interested. They , like you , have the Gall to tell God what kind of terms they will need met before they Bow their Knee... just like you....just like you. Say to God that He has not given you enough FACTS ! Say unto God that the Bible is to poorly written ! Tell God He is a bad communicator ! Blaspheme His Holy Name while your at it .. what difference will it make in your case ! Look at this bastard that went to hell blame God even from there ! Luke 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom....... 27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: 28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. ===== Jesus spoke this concerning the fact that even though He would be crucified and raised from the dead ..===== - You would not believe. The issue is YOU MARK ! - You are going to hell and all the while accusing God of failing to provide adequate proof. - You do the work of satan and try to disprove the authority of God's Word.. - You have had more than enough people here willing to tell you the truth. - You will probably play with a lot more Christians before your done. - You. How are you any different than the evil man in those verses of Scripture ? I don't think your nice... I think your a con ! Ungodly to be exact ! People who are deceived by your nice act need to remember this verse . James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. This will soon be you .... Jeremiah 8:20 The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved.