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To: Richnorth who wrote (45375)11/29/1999 3:07:00 AM
From: Zardoz  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 116764
 
Seems plausible to me that some posters on SI have a special agenda!!!

Duh... Mine has always been truth. If it can't be qualified or quantified then it doesn't exist. Faith in systems that don't reach static or dynamic equations of logic are random. Randomness exists only in insufficient dimensions. Consider your statement again:

If you are familiar with Scottish history, you will recall that Robert the Bruce saw a spider weave its web 7 times (it just kept on weaving every time the web was destroyed!) And this incident reportedly gave Robert the Bruce the inspiration and determination to defeat the English roundly at the Battle of Banockburn on June 23/24 1314.

This is an analogy to conspiracies and the ilks of GATA & Butler. Spin a web enough times and sooner or later you attract a fly. Doesn't matter if the fly is innocent or guilty {Armstrong} just as long as you stick to the party line that a conspiracy exists {to keep gold down}. Then like a chain of telephone conversations, the lies become the truth. The believe of the system of lies have no basis in reason, and are compounded in conversation such as this threads. Half lies get reported as truth.

Gata {Moreover Bill Murphy} and Butler lack the experience to find proof of manipulation on a large scale for one simple reason... IT DOESN'T EXIST. In saying that, it is true that many countries have had selective times in which they have played the derivatives markets, currencies and GOLD to their best interests. And yes the small selective markets where hurt for a short time. But none of these actions have resulted in large scale deterioration of the markets to which the actions occurred. But this is the nature of markets. When markets; whether it's currencies, gold, oil, equities, bonds; get set into a trend that is dynamically unstable and may result in a more catastrophic consequence: it is the duty of the CB to break the trend.

Hutch...
Time to break a few trends. Oil, Silver, Gold



To: Richnorth who wrote (45375)11/29/1999 4:09:00 AM
From: d:oug  Respond to of 116764
 
Richnorth, <<... futile for anyone (e.g. GATA) to try again?>> No, if...

A while back Bill Murphy of GATA mentioned those gladiators of
ancient Rome that engaged in mortal combat for public entertainment.
For those times when both fighters were of equal skills and one
finally obtaining the upper hand, he would look at the people
and let them decide if the other should be allowed to continue.

If a thumbs up prevailed then the loser was allowed to live and
fight another day. This decision by the people was not one of mercy
or compassion or graditude towards the man that fought well and brave
but lost, but a simple decision not to kill a man that could provided
more good entertainment. A thumbs up to those who contribute and
add to the quality of life for us. A thumbs down to those who lessen
and decrease that which we value.

Bill Murphy asked for feedback on how he should use information that
he has received that can be used as a weapon against those who he
has identified as working against GATA values.

Bill Murphy obtained a strong thumbs down, which reflected that
this time it was not entertainment value at stake, but economic policy
for a free and open commerce based on the concepts that everyone
will be better served if those anti GATA were crushed without mercy.

GATA with Bill Murphy's leadership understands that those which
they fight against have no honor and will act with none in their
defense of the GATA advances towards them.

<<... the inspiration and determination to defeat the English
roundly at the Battle of Banockburn on June 23/24 1314.>>

It will be spoken of in a like way about GATA.

<<In some parts of Asia, an effective way to bring about change
is to force the ruling elite to stare into the barrel of a gun.
Will this ever be necessary in the Western world ? >>

In my opinion if the above change obtained by force requires
a continuation of force to continue, then there was no change
except another person's finger on the trigger. If the change
by force results in a government remaining in power thru the wishes
of the people's thoughts and voices only, then this is worth fighting
for using force of a gun against another holding power only with
the power of a gun.

For those new to GATA, the following is where to go if interested.

Bill Murphy,
Chairman, Gold Anti Trust Action (GATA) gata.org
Le Patron, Le Metropole Cafe lemetropolecafe.com

Doug