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To: kapkan4u who wrote (81506)11/30/1999 12:55:00 AM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572209
 
What a novel idea?!!!
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Dell to offer new Webpc line of consumer PCs

By Eric Auchard


NEW YORK, Nov 30 (Reuters) - Dell is getting cute.

Dell Computer Corp. <DELL.O>, the world's No. 2 personal computer maker, said it will unveil on Tuesday a new generation of small and stylish Intel-based consumer desktop PCs that do away with the austere functionalism of traditional PCs.

Dell's long-anticipated Webpc, as the new computers are known, take up roughly one third the desktop space of a typical pizza-box shaped PC and come in at least five designer colors, echoing a strategy pioneered by Apple Computer Inc. <AAPL.O>.

Prices start at $1,000 for a complete package that includes a computer running an Intel Celeron 433 megahertz chip, a standard 15-inch monitor with built-in speakers, a printer and one year of the company's Dellnet Internet access service.

The Webpc introduction, timed to coincide with the holiday PC shopping rush, positions Dell to meet rising demand for an emerging category of color-coordinated, industrially designed PCs that fit the decor of rooms other than the home office.

"The Webpc is for consumers looking for a really hassle-free solution that allows a user to surf the Web, play games and use office applications when working at home," John Medica, vice president and general manager of Dell's Web Products Group, said in a phone interview on Monday.

By offering a complete package, Dell has broken with its typical practice of offering a la carte pricing that allow consumers to mix-and-match computer chips and other components, hard disk drive and peripherals to create a customized PC.

Taking advantage of its direct-selling capacity via the Web at webpc.com or over the telephone, Dell is set to take orders Tuesday and ship the products in the first half of next month. Orders take five to eight days to fill and those made by mid-December could be ready for Christmas, Medica said.

The Webpc comes in two additional configurations, including a 466 megahertz-based Webpc priced at $1,099 that includes an optional flat-panel display for another $850 or $1,949 in total. A 500 megahertz Intel Pentium III-based model starts at $1,499, or $2,349 with flat-panel display.

The Webpc weighs 10 pounds, is six inches wide, 11 inches high and 10 inches deep. The box comes in shades of blue, orange, teal, red and purple. Printers and external floppy disk drives come in complementary colors of blue or gray.

In addition, Dell is offering up to six different peripheral products for the Webpc, including such devices as a digital scanner, a videogame joy stick or a digital camera.

The Webpc is the latest in a new class of PCs that take advantage of smaller motherboards, or internal chassis, from top PC chip maker Intel Corp. <INTC.O> and new simpler connector technology known as Universal Serial Bus (USB).

Earlier this month, Compaq introduced a similarly small, $499 PC that is aimed a office workers, not consumers. In October, Gateway introduced a new all-in-one PC that looks like Apple's iMac consumer computer. The Gateway Astro is priced at $799 for the PC, or just under $1,000 with a printer and Internet access service -- in line with Dell's Webpc offer.

Van Baker, a consumer PC analyst with industry research firm Dataquest of San Jose, Calif., said Dell's Webpc could be a hit with consumers who are intimidated by all the decisions involved in traditional PCs. "It's a nicely done product. I think it will have appeal," Baker said.

However, he speculated that Dell's decision to bundle the various elements of the Webpc in a single package may be an artful way around the company's recent shortage of certain components, including memory chips and flat-panel displays.

Dell plans to continue to sell its existing Dimension line of standard consumer PCs, its Inspiron line of notebooks and other products using its traditional a la carte pricing.

Baker said Dell is the first to market such smaller PCs to consumer. It can do so in the final run-up to the holidays because its direct sales approach via the Web allows consumers to quickly order such new models. He contrasted Dell's speed to Compaq, the world's No. 1 PC maker, which must pre-build and sell consumer PCs largely through retail outlets.

Medica said Dell planned to undertake a new advertising push on television, outdoor billboards, including subway stations and bus shelters, and online banners ads designed to differentiate the Webpc consumer brand from its traditional marketing, which has been aimed at tech-savvy PC buyers.

Based on the campaign pitch "Born to Web," the ads target the so-called "cyber-psyched" -- enthusiastic technology users who may care less about individual components. The category includes 19- to 25-year-old first-time buyers and 35- to 60-year-olds who may be looking for a second PC when they are away from their office machines, he said.

Ahead of the new product introduction, Dell shares closed up 13/16 of a point on Monday at 43-3/4 in Nasdaq stock market trading.

00:02 11-30-99

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To: kapkan4u who wrote (81506)11/30/1999 1:37:00 AM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1572209
 
<Show me the money PBOY. Dell salespeople are telling everybody that they can order a 733 today, but it will ship after Jan 6th. Explain that, but save your broken record act for Intel press releases.>

Kap, there are two broken records here. One is the Intel press releases and PB's defense of them, that Coppermine is ramping and selling well. The other is mostly from this thread, who say all sort of stuff like Intel is having production problems, Intel can't yield much higher than 750 MHz, etc.

It's only been a month since Coppermine's release. I know everyone wants things to work in Internet time, but one month? Why not wait until January when Intel announces Q4 1999 results? I hope you have some INTC shares before then, because I expect a nice upside surprise.

As for the Dell salespeople, I don't know who you were talking to. I remember calling Gateway three weeks ago, and if I wanted to, I could have obtained a 700 MHz Pentium III a week after order. And let's not forget about Pricewatch, which lists about ten vendors selling the Pentium III 733 MHz (although admittedly they popped up a few weeks after Coppermine launch).

Speaking of which, I don't see the Athlon 750 listed there yet. (That's just an FYI; perhaps we'll see a few vendors two weeks from now.)

Tenchusatsu



To: kapkan4u who wrote (81506)11/30/1999 2:19:00 AM
From: Process Boy  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1572209
 
kapkan - <Ever since VaporMine introduction you sound like a broken record: It scales like mad. Yields are astronomical. Bins are incredible. Volume is awesome. >

I didn't say it quite like that kapakn. My stance has always it will be a close race. When reffering to Cumine scaling issues, I have usually been rebutting assertions that do underestimeate Cumine scalability. I never said or inferred it scaled "like mad". If you read my posts, I actually give the design scalability point to the Athlon.

"Yields are astroniomical". When did I say that? I do back up the claims of INTC senior management that there are not yield probelms.

"Bins are incredible."

Again, I don't believe this is what I inferred. I have posted in rebuttal, as backup to INTC statements, that there is no problem yielding (binning) the 733's.

And yes my latest rebuttal to Charles. All's I'm going to say is that he is absolutely wrong on his binsplit information. Wrong ,wrong, wrong. His source is nowhere near Coppermine. That is very apparent. I do take exception with Charles indicating he has an inside source on Coppermine issues, and then post a bunch of inaccurate crap. This guy can't even get the proper state that the design group is located in for Pete's sake. Why doesn't this guy, if he is so down on INTC, (and apparently at least thinking he's/she's violating his/her NDA) even work there? You got out, didn't you? Why doesn't this unhappy INTC camper? That's what's cool about the U.S., employment is an implied 2 way contract. And working sror someone that you go around stabbing in the back, well, I guess my Daddy didn't raise me to have a lot of respect for such behavior. My own "everybody has one" opinion.

PB



To: kapkan4u who wrote (81506)11/30/1999 8:46:00 AM
From: Dan3  Respond to of 1572209
 
Re: Show me the money...

We can get 700s now from Gateway in 2-3 weeks, not much longer than it takes them to ship anything else. We've already received a few (though we have quite a few more Athlons than Coppermines!). Gateway has confirmed that they will have Athlons, but not when. I would guess that they are waiting on availability of VIA based or shiner based motherboards.

I think that, just as AMD knew its .18 was OK from a limited number of production runs, Intel knew its .18 was OK from a limited number of production runs. Confirmation of the price cuts seems to indicate that Intel will be up to speed with product coming out of the pipeline at a high rate in mid December, while AMDs high rate .18 productioin will show up a month later. Despite the rumors and press releases, I expect both companies to be at 800MHZ in a January time frame. (maybe AMD early January and Intel late January - AMD may be at 850 at that point)

Considering that AMDs .25 is competitive with the Intel .18 (what we've seen of it so far, at least) and that Intel was supposed to have a 4 to 6 month lead moving to .18, that's pretty good news.

The fact that AMD's off chip cache CPU is competitive with Intels on chip cache is also very good news.

Athlon is set up to use DDR 266, that can be provided by a single inexpensive DIMM. Intel needs a pair of expensive RIMMs to provide a similar performance level, but Intel is out of the expensive cartridge ahead of AMD due to on chip cache.

So far, so good. I still think Intel will be 300++ Billion dollar market cap company at the end of next year, and AMD should be worth at least 10% to 20% of what Intel is worth - ie. a stock price of $175 to $375, after a dilution to 175 million shares, used to raise additional working capital and buy Jerry a few more well deserved limos :-)

Regards,

Dan