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To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (81542)11/30/1999 1:39:00 PM
From: kash johal  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576164
 
Pravin,

Re:"k6-III 500"

Dunno.

Seems like a strange time to be bringing it out at close to a $200 price point - which is where the AThlon 500's are at.

And with the K6-2+ and k6-3+ allegedly being introduced in january/february.

PS, Took a look at the Athlon PDF specs:

Vcc is same as 0.25 micron product 1.6V nominal +/- 0.1V.

Power is reduced. Initial Athlon 600 had 45 watts as typical power (50W max). Athlon 750 is 38 watts typical power (43W max).

Seems like they can run to 850-900Mhz consuming power similar to 0.25 700Mhz speed grades.

Not stunning performance but seems like they are keeping the front end constant and have improved just the back end process for density.

Nice conservative approach.

Yields should be awesome due to much smaller die.

Paul was figuring 30% Athlon yields at 180mm2 die.
With 100mm2 they should be at least 50% and thats 150 die per wafer.

Thats only 6K wafers/month to get to 1M units/month.

Looks pretty good to me.

regards,

Kash



To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (81542)11/30/1999 2:01:00 PM
From: Mani1  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576164
 
Pravin Re <<Anyone here think the K6-III 500 to be released next month could be a 0.18u copper product from Dresden?>>

Highly unlikely. That would be at least 6 months earlier than Sanders said it would be.

K6-III 500 should be a 0.18 Al from fab 25.

Mani



To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (81542)11/30/1999 2:03:00 PM
From: Petz  Respond to of 1576164
 
Pravin, re:<K6-III 500 could be a 0.18u copper product from Dresden>

Why not? Does anyone remember when the news came out that AMD would start Dresden off with a non-Athlon CPU? If it was 2-3 months ago, I would consider it very likely that the Dec 12 (rumored) K6-3-500 is from Dresden.

Why not sell them if they work. There is probably good demand for a hundered thousand of these just to upgrade K6-3-400 systems.

Petz