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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (93278)	12/1/1999 6:02:00 PM
From: Tony Viola	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Jim, I also have no doubt when AMD puts the cache on the athlon die that the coppermine will not even come close... How easy is that to do? Not exactly like putting a Big Ben puzzle together, especially if you want good yields. Do people assume that because Intel, or IBM has done it, it just follows that anyone else can? Remember Cyrix, IDT and Rise failing the MHz (which sells) test? In the last few years (say, since SI) what has AMD done that's a real keeper besides the K7? Also, when's AMD plan to pull the L2 cache onboard with the CPU? Willamette's coming. Tony

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (93278)	12/1/1999 7:00:00 PM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Re: "Why would AMD want to release a 1 gig Athlon before they introduce the 800, 850, 900, 950 and 1000? " They wouldn't, besides they can keep gullible people like you believing they can release a 1 GHz part any time they want to. Re: "I also have no doubt when AMD puts the cache on the athlon die that the coppermine will not even come close..." AMD has so much trouble doing ondie L2 they have to create a new part, the K6-2+ with only 128K ondie L2. Obviously they are K63s that won't work with 256K L2. If AMD could put the L2 on the Athlon they would have already. EP