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To: jbe who wrote (64730)	12/2/1999 1:26:00 PM
From: Alexander	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 108807

Honey' Long before the "Trail of Tears" was a figment of some lunatics imagination..When the Good old English landed at Plymouth Rock..The Indians had everything to gain by sticking together..which their elders recommended...The Young Braves knew more than their Elders and look at the end result..;-) My Ancestry is English/Irish and Cherokee..Better not mess' with me..LOL.

To: jbe who wrote (64730)	12/2/1999 2:30:00 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Hi, I am a believer in Manifest Destiny, simply because I believe God is "All Powerful" and so nothing can happen against his will. The fact that the new world society did spread to the Pacific coast makes the concept of Manifest Destiny spouted in the early days of USA expansion a fulfilled concept. That is, for people who believe in an All Powerful God. I understand that for non-believers its just politics as usual. Obviously during the Indian/American wars individuals took that concept as licence and authority to commit evil, heinous acts based solely on bigotry. That doesn't make God evil or nullify the concept of All Powerful. Because God does not stop human beings from committing evil acts does not make those acts good, or against his will. His will is that we should have free will and atone for our actions on judgement day. How else would it be fair to throw some people's butts to the fire.

To: jbe who wrote (64730)	12/2/1999 4:22:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 108807

I am also part Cherokee, according to family oral history, but apparently before the Cherokees were sent to Oklahoma ~ that particular side of the family is from Alabama by way of North Carolina. One thing I have always found curious is the number of Southerners who claim to be part Cherokee, while none that I know have ever claimed to be part black. I do know that my mother's mother's mother was either all, or part, Chippewa (Ojibwah) and was sent to the Carlisle Indian School in Carlisle Pennsylvania, to be taught how to act white, instead of Indian. Her husband, my great-grandfather, refused to let her claim a share in some Indian lands because he did not want people to know he had married an Indian. Coincidentally, the Carlisle Indian School is having a reunion/pow-wow next year for descendents of kids who attended the school, and I am planning on going.