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To: Elmer who wrote (81826)	12/2/1999 7:59:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572340

Elmer, <AMD has never made a thin dime (overall) on any processor they have ever designed.> I'm still reminded of Atiq Raza's quote (paraphrased), "Profits are a good deodorant, but we stink." I think AMD's booming Flash business could be serving as that deodorant right now, at least during the time span between now and Fab 30's ramp-up. A lot of AMD's potential to break even this quarter rests on the boom in Flash. Of course, flash is hardly a topic that comes up on this thread, since people are too focused on discussing Coppermine and Athlon. Yeah, I know, AMD's future rests on Athlon, but still. Tenchusatsu

To: Elmer who wrote (81826)	12/2/1999 8:33:00 PM
From: Bill Jackson	Respond to of 1572340

Elmer, Yes, when demand slows down and Intel and AMD sell their fastets CPUs even the multiply configured Xeons and Athloxeons will go down in the mud and they will figure it out and not let the prices dropp too far since it will effect the entire product line of both companies. As for profits AMD has made money on the sale and production of nearly all recent CPUs if you consider them as free standing products. If you take the R&D, New Fab and other costs then they have a net loss for many quarters. If they had made no processors at all but had still incurred the R&D and fab costs they would have been far deeper in the hole. AMD has made a net CPU profit for years but has been unable, until now, to have a clear field at the high profit end with new parts that are the fastest ones in the market. AMD has had that lead for five of the last 6 months and it's fortunes have turned around. Bill