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To: Grainne who wrote (65687)	12/7/1999 12:43:00 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Socialism seems to me to be (primarily) the redistribution of (some) goods by the State to serve a common (State) purpose - although this is not the technical definition (and a socialist state COULD choose to redistribute all goods- but then I would think of it as communist and not socialist). Communism on the other hand seems to be much more extreme- seeking to abolish private property and collectivize everything (even thought) in a totalitarian society. Socialism is a much smaller concept (to my mind) than communism. I can't see how you can integrate communism with a free society- but I CAN see how you can integrate a few socialistic ideas. Maybe it's just my perspective that socialism takes a little from the individual to serve the whole, but communism takes everything.

To: Grainne who wrote (65687)	12/7/1999 8:58:00 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

In Marx, socialism is the phase of government control of the economy, and communism is the phase when the "state withers away". In subsequent usage, socialism was the more generic term, communism referred specifically to revolutionary socialism. By contrast, "socialist" came to refer to those parties that sought to establish socialism through electoral politics. A further distinction developed between "socialists" and "social democrats". Socialists were more hardline about central planning, social democrats were willing to seek the amelioration of inequality through a mixed economy.Strictly, the mainstream of the Socialist parties in Europe have long been "social democratic", but many people are not familiar with the distinction, which may be thought of as the "right wing" of the international socialist movement.....