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To: Mani1 who wrote (82553)12/9/1999 9:53:00 PM
From: niceguy767  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572014
 
Hi Mani:

From what I can glean in the retail channel, INTc needs to revamp the PIII. The "here and now" Athlon is grabbing market share rapidly.

This latest pronouncement by Intel has a familiar ring to it, that being a "some-time-in-the-future" enhancement to the PIII...Who knows what enhancements (but I'm fairly certain they'll be at least equally as significant and "available" in the retail channel) the Athlon will have by then?

Mani, with these ever more frequent announcements by Intel, but still not much presence in the retail channel, I'm reminded of the old adage: "A bird in habd is worth two in the tree".

Forgive me if I sound cocky, but since October, there has been a lot of promises by Intel but not much in the way of delivery. Contrarily, AMD has moved from 600MHz to 750MHz, and my sense seamlessly and without significant incremental costs.

I learned a long time ago to go by what I could touch, see and test. At the moment, I can touch, see and test a 700 MHz Athlon. I have not been successful in doing so with the promised competitor.

Having said all that...Of course the wildcard is that INTC hits the homerun...I guess I'm just wrapped up in the grand slam delivered by the Athlon over the past 6 months! I'll worry about INTC's homerun, when and if they can deliver it...I wouldn't count on that happenning though if the past 6 months are any kind of an indicator!

My



To: Mani1 who wrote (82553)12/9/1999 10:23:00 PM
From: Elmer  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1572014
 
Re: "Intel Process Tweak Improves
Pentium III "

Thanks Mani for that post. If I am not mistaken it sounds to me like Intel has already shipped faster than 800MHz CuMine processors. May we live in interesting times.

"Some devices have shipped, but we haven't announced that yet." "Regardless, "The clock frequency is better than 800 MHz," Ghani said. "

EP



To: Mani1 who wrote (82553)12/9/1999 11:00:00 PM
From: Charles R  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572014
 
Mani,

<Intel's wild card?

techweb.com

Intel Process Tweak Improves
Pentium III >

It does look like Intel has some neat innovations on the process side but pushing an old core seem to be taking a toll. I suspect that the 800s going out now are early samples.

I personally think AMD is pulling away but given we have PB on the other side saying "it ain't so", let's see when the 800s get into volumes. And more importantly, let's see what AMD will offer in the same time frame.

Chuck



To: Mani1 who wrote (82553)12/10/1999 10:51:00 AM
From: Windsock  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572014
 
Mani - Re: IEDM Paper
"Intel Process Tweak Improves
Pentium III
(12/09/99, 6:37 p.m. ET)
By Peter Clarke, EE Times"

This is the work of PB and his team. Proof that PB has been giving accurate guidance that the frequency will increase nicely for the PIII.

The forecast that the PIII and Athlon will scale together appears right on target.

Congratulations to PB and the team on the good engineering job. And thanks to PB for the shrewd forecast in spite of the abuse from certain AMDroid fanatics.



To: Mani1 who wrote (82553)12/10/1999 5:39:00 PM
From: Zoran  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1572014
 
Mani,

IEDM is becoming a PR battleground. There was nothing impressive about Intel's 130 nm technology. They claim the top cache speed of 1.06 GHz, while IBM presented results for their 0.18 um SOI process with cache speed of 1.5 GHz. Also Intel's gate delay is about 10 ps compared to less than 8 for IBM. There is nothing to brag about this Coppermine process, not bad, but also not earth shattering either.

Zoran