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To: gdichaz who wrote (12753)12/14/1999 10:15:00 AM
From: DownSouth  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 54805
 
I repeat that to me it was the best piece of research, analysis and presentation for a company on this board, with the exception of Mike's on the Q.

What happened, silence. He received no replies, no interest. Only Mike asked him some questions for clarification and then silence again.

Others including NY Stew (as I recall - perhaps incorrectly) have thought SNDK worth considering since but silence has reigned.

A simple dismissal by calling it a shiny pebble is not persuasive IMO.

What is the substance of the dismissal?


Cha2, There has been plenty of discussion on SNDK since Ausdauer's fabulous presentation. As I recall, the consensus was that SNDK was worth watching but was neither simian nor kingly. Mike's questions were excellent, so dismissing our responses as "only Mike asked" disregards the quality of Mike's questions.

We are still watching SNDK. Proof positive is the fact that we are discussing it again.

Just because Ausdauer did such a text book presentation does not justify that the stock should be crowned. In my mind, he helped me understand the company well enough to keep in on the radar screen, but not to buy it yet.

The fact that our recent portfolio inventory did not include substantial SNDK demonstrates that many others came to the same independent conclusion.




To: gdichaz who wrote (12753)12/14/1999 10:29:00 AM
From: Wyätt Gwyön  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 54805
 
Chaz, thanks for your post. I just kind of jumped in here yesterday without being aware that you had made a primate (or royalty? I will have to read the back posts!) proposal for SNDK. I owned SNDK in the summer--bought in the 30s, sold (too soon) around 50. I have read Ausdauer's excellent thesis several times. One thing I think it does not really address, though (and this is my concern about SNDK), is the extent to which the co. has an IPR lock on CF. The thesis presents good arguments for nonvolatile storage as a tornado, and for CF as being superior to other options, but I did not come away convinced that SNDK has the kind of IPR lock that QCOM has on CDMA. It may indeed have such a lock, but as an individual investor, you either make the leap of faith, or are fortunate to have a bunch of people like Clark Hare, engineer, GP, and others around to make such things comprehensible. I just have not seen that level of analysis on SNDK. That, plus the fact that the Q has been such a great investment, has kept me away. I was very intrigued when the stock started plummeting after the earthquake. I think I may have even done a trade or two on it. But my attitude there would have been more like a swing trader; would not have had anywhere near the conviction that I have had investing in the Q. I congratulate you for making a move on the stock when it was way oversold. If you can provide the sort of explanation of Sandisk's (purported) IPR stranglehold (not just the number of patents, but rather, why certain patents are crucial to anybody wanting in the CF arena, just as we have heard about soft handoff, etc. being crucial for CDMA), then I could indeed become more intrigued by the company.
Cheers, MM