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To: Neocon who wrote (66594)	12/14/1999 12:39:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

OK, just wanted to clarify matters.

To: Neocon who wrote (66594)	12/14/1999 1:14:00 PM
From: Daniel Schuh	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 108807

Yeah, yeah, Neocon. What "dreadful insinuation" did I make? What are you talking about? The only thing I can figure out is where you wrote in siliconinvestor.com ".... controlling for positive communication or for a parent-oriented motivation for spanking eliminated the negative effects of spanking, suggesting that the negative effects reflected use of spanking as a replacement for positive communication with the child." And I sarcastically replied in Message 12271490 : Sure, Neocon. So if your "spare the rod, spoil the child" moral reformationist pals manage to teach their followers how to communicate positively with their children, they can whack them all they want. Kids really like being preached at too, you know? On the other hand, you can just say no, and remove the necessary condition. You think that's "dreadful insinuation"? I think you should go back to advocating laws against public breast feeding, that made more sense. Anyway, while I'm at it, I may as well make another dreadful insinuation. On the "flawed studies" issue, Christine challenged you in Message 12278852 Since you disagree, and have brushed aside the results of numerous studies, not just the Canadian one, can you perhaps come at this from another angle and find any respectable, scholarly studies published in mainstream medical journals which actually SUPPORT spanking as a positive practice, and have statistics to back up their research, showing how children benefit and become healthier as the result of being hit? The typical Neocon response in Message 12279211 .In any case, there are some studies professing to support the efficacy of spanking cited in the US News and World Report article..... I read that article and recalled nothing of the kind, so I checked again. This, apparently is the citation you refer to: A few studies suggest that when used appropriately, spanking makes small children less likely to fight with others and more likely to obey their parents. (from Message 12270986 ) And that seems to be it. Bunch of guys whining about "flawed studies" and the vaguest of reference to "a few studies suggest", all in a "scholarly" US News article. My "dreadful insinuation" for the day is that it's ridiculous to argue at this level, with all the stuff that CB cites versus "a few studies suggest".