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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Rambi who wrote (67150)	12/18/1999 12:29:00 PM
From: Michael M	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

How odd that your post ended with a demeaning dig of its own. tsk tsk If Feelies was EXACTLY like DAR, one could go, don't you think? More to music than "easy listening." Not a criticism of you or your thread -- just a seriously thoughtful comment on an issue you raised. OK, it was a little sarcastic -- Feelies neither the wild, wild nor mild, mild west. Mike

To: Rambi who wrote (67150)	12/18/1999 3:22:00 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 108807

I think I am a bit more of a crusader than you are, Penni. I do see spanking as a practice that is utterly wrong, and am advocating for the civil and human rights of children not to be hurt. I haven't even started on the circumcision issue! One of your strengths is taking a whole lot of disparate elements, people, opinions, etc. and making some kind of delicious cake out of it all. I think that is why so many people enjoy your posts. I also think that growing up in Virginia and living in Texas probably exposes you to a wider variety of ideologies than I am exposed to here on Old Hippie Hill on the Left Coast. Then there is the fact, often discussed here, that it is easy to trade insults online that we would all be much too well mannered to say to each other in person. I am not sure exactly how it came to be that there are a couple of armed camps at Feelings. I was not here when it happened. As I recall, in the early days here it was accepted that it was a place that soft and gentle people, pagans and free thinkers, and even liberals, could hang out and not be bothered very often. That does not seems to be the case anymore. I actually thought I had written a very conciliatory post when I answered yours though, acknowledging that child development was complex, and that most children were survivors of a diverse set of parenting practices. I cannot be myself, though, without calling the age of spanking the Dark Ages. If I have to scrape so much of my personality and my beliefs from my posts that they would never bother anyone at all, I don't think I can keep writing them. Does anyone have a source for that brain study of teens? I would like to read it. I think what happens is that suddenly they are as big as you are, and doing adult things like driving and working and expressing intellectual concepts like adults, so it is easy to think of them as more mature than they are. My daughter has made several choices that she was absolutely adamant about, and they have turned out to be very wrong choices for her. Now I know that she is very strong willed, but I no longer take that as a sign that she will intuitively make the correct choices, and am guiding her a bit more closely. This shouldn't be a scary place to post an opinion, Penni. But I do not really know how to solve the problem. I don't think having SI Bob as a babysitter is the answer, though. Of course, why should I be surprised that some of the most obnoxious posters (in my humble opinion) are also big crybabies?

To: Rambi who wrote (67150)	12/18/1999 3:28:00 PM
From: Daniel Schuh	Respond to of 108807

Rambi, the last serious post I made on the issue was Message 12269779 . Offhand, I'd say it's pretty much agrees with what you say here. Bunch of URLs too, I could have dug up many, many more, but what's the point? Since then, I haven't offered anything more than occasional sarcasm toward the "research is bunk" people. The think about the "research is bunk" line, nobody except maybe Neocon has offered anything but broad-brush denial of the validity of any behavioral or social science research. Nobody has picked apart particular studies, they just deny the validity of all research. OK, not much to argue with at that level. Then there's Neocon and his USNews article, plus one other article that doesn't quite say what he represents it as saying. From long experience, I know better than to argue with the Neocon posting machine. Life is short, and the criminalization of public breast feeding campaign was a lot more entertaining than the current debate. As to what Neocon and the guys think is going on here, I'd point to Message 12309372 Funnily enough, I usually give my son the option of saying he is sorry or accepting punishment, and often he would rather be punished than have to say he is sorry. Reminds me of the thread....... I got no idea if that was directed at me or a broader group, and it doesn't much matter. Those who question conservative orthodoxy must apologize or be punished. Unlike the first time, Bob's intervention yesterday seems to have done no good. Unlike last weekend or the long Thanksgiving weekend, enough of the guys seem to be around today to keep feelies looking like "Sanity" or the Bush thread, or Neocon's "Reagan the Lion King" thread, in terms of the people posting and the range of acceptable opinions. Too bad for the feelies, I'm sure the guys will post how it's all my fault. Yes, my random 2 or 3 posts a day are the entire reason why "feelies" now has the look and feel of "Sanity". Not my battle anymore, though. It's the feelies' loss, and SI's, but that's life. Cheers, Dan.