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To: Ilaine who wrote (67272)12/18/1999 9:34:00 PM
From: greenspirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
The problem with CPS is they have "secret police" like powers and you are presumed guilty until proven innocent.

Due process and the assumption of innocence until proven guilty is too important a concept linked to freedom for me.

If a law is broken, we have police to arrest people and a legal system to enact due process. If we don't have enough police to enforce "child abuse" laws then we should hire more.

Creating an entire system of enforcement, operating far too often outside due process of law is simply wrong.

The horror stories I have seen have permanently turned my stomach. One man I knew, who tried to enforce normal curfew on his stepdaughter, had his children taken from him because she (spitefully) reported assault from him to the school therapist.

It took two years for her to finally come clean. Even then CPS didn't want to believe the truth.

That story, or one very close to it, has probably happened a million times since the creation and growth of CPS.

Children should be protected from real abuse, but we should be able to do it within the bounds of lawful enforcement methodologies. Not by empowering a "Secret police" force, where you're presumed guilty, and stripped of your children without any evidence.

I feel the same way about some drug related arrest procedures. Many of the ones related to taking property, before a trial are simply wrong to me.

Michael



To: Ilaine who wrote (67272)12/19/1999 7:01:00 AM
From: nihil  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Use your cell phone 911. Code 403: "Woman harassing kids in MacDonald's."
I have a kid who practices his music instrument (drum set!) before he goes to bed at night. He usually goes to bed at 0230. The cops come almost every night. I let them handle it. Can stand the child abuse charge. They tell him to play soft (use brushes).


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