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To: Elmer who wrote (83594)	12/19/1999 8:45:00 PM
From: Bill Jackson	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1572281

Elmer, Only three AMD submissions on the sheet. 500,550,600 More misdirection. Has anyone with no bias tested the CPUs under identical conditions( as far as that can be done). Since dell does not sell Athlons yet, then they have not. Comparing others without some attempt at a commonality of the platform as regards peripherals and memory type would be needed. Comparing an Athlon with rambus against a copper minus with PC-100 would not be a valid test, nor is it valid the other way. You need to rate the CPU inisolation. How would you like a test with a 7200RPM SCSI-III wide Barracuda on an Athlon versus a 3600 RPM drive on typical database search and replace benchmark? Well when there are Athlons running the same memoery at the same CPU speed, with same video etc, then you can make comparisons that are valid. The problem with these submitted benchmarks is the inherent bias involved. Remember the "homes for sale" ad in the papers, years ago, in a cartoon format? A nice picture of a housing development with 2.3 kids/house etc and a sign, "only 19 minutes from downtown" In the front is Juan Fangio, in a Lotus and the manager says. Well Juan, it is 4 AM and the state highway patrol has cleared the roads for us....try to get it down to 18 minutes" Suspicions confirmed" was the cartoon I look on self serving benchmarks from AMD. Intel in that way....under suspicion. Bill

To: Elmer who wrote (83594)	12/19/1999 11:51:00 PM
From: Cirruslvr	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572281

Elmer - RE: "Dell posts Official SPEC scores confirming that even a 700MHz 440BX based CuMine system beats AMD's fastest Athlon (750MHz) in SPECint95" Did you notice that while SPECint scales almost linearly, SPECfp doesn't? In SPECfp, the 600 and 733MHz Dell systems which use i820 and DRDRAM perform much better than the 650 and 700MHz systems which use BX and PC100. So much that so that 600MHz system has a much higher score than the 700MHz system. I guess this is one of the few benchmarks which show the capabilities of the i820/DRDRAM combo.