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To: Alan Markoff who wrote (28767)12/23/1999 12:51:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 39621
 
Why do the Markoffs slander and hate the great Protestant Reformer Martin Luther?

Mark these words of the Markoffs carefully:
"When religion is used to hurt people I am against it. Some of your Christian gods were evil I am sorry. Try Martin Luther your apparent
idol was very anti-Semitic and depraved with swearing etc.."

Has any Christian on these threads ever experienced other Christians who considered Martin Luther a God? NO!
Why do the Markoffs insist on smearing Martin Luther and other Christians?

Was the great Christian Reformer "depraved"? NO! So why do the Markoffs insist on slandering and smearing the great Christian Reformer with the word "depraved"?

Has anyone on these threads ever indicated that Martin Luther was their "idol"? NO! So why do the Markoffs insist on slandering and smearing other Christians by saying that they make Luther into an idol?

Why do the Markoffs insist on smearingmany of the Chritians leaders of the past such as Maring Luther, St. Athanasius, St. Agustine, St Chrysostum, etc.? Why do the Markoffs insist on smearing the Christian Church of the past? They neve point out the evil antichrist nature of Talmudic Judaism for the last two thousand years! But they cohntantly attack the Church and the Christian leaders?
WHY, WHY, WHY!

The Markoffs have but ONE supreme criterion to judge all men! DO THEY SUPPORT MODERN ANTICHRIST JUDAISM AND DO THEY CONSIDER MODERN ANTICHRIST ISRAEL! If one supports modern Judaism and Zionism, they are good according to the Markoffs, if not, they are bad and should be slandered. If a Christian saint dares examine modern Talmudic Judaism carefully and learn that they are and have been antichrist for the last two thousand years, then the Markoffs immediately fly into and slanderous rage. They have no desire to support and defend the Body of Christ, the Christian Church.

Martin Luther stood against the corruption and sinfulness of the Roman Catholic leadership and demanded reform. Luther was a bold Christian who proclaimed that faith in Christ Jesus was the sole source of salvation. The Roman Catholic leadership of the fifteenth and sixteenth century had corrupted the Church with outrageous false doctrines such as indulgences. These leaders were jeopardizing the salvation of many with their false doctrines. They had perverted the simple Gospel of fatih. Luther was clearly a holy saint called by God to help free the Church from some of these false doctrines.
The Markoffs can see none of this! Why? Because their agenda is for modern Talmudic Judaism and the old dead covenant and not the New Covenant in Christ Jesus.
Both Catholic and Protestant Christians can agree to these general facts.

The Markoffs do not care that Luther helped reform the Church for the better. The Markoffs do not care that Martin Luther was a saint who was washed in the blood of Christ. They only care about Martin Luther's exposition of the antichrisat nature of modern Talmudic Judaism. Martin Luther clearly exposed modern Judaism as a religion that was based upon the antichrist teachings of the Babylonian Talmud.
The great Reformer warned the Church about the evil and antichrist nature of modern Talmudic Judaism. Luther's opinion about modern Judaism can be read in his book: THE JEWS AND THEIR LIES. Luther's book is an historical treatise that should be read by all Christains to help them understand the true antichrist nature of modern Judaism.

The Markoffs have an agenda! They want to protect and hide the true nature of modern Talmudic Judaism. They want to pretend that modern Judaism is not antichrist. Martin Luther and the other Christians saints they attack so viciously and slanderous clearly reveal the antichrist nature of modern Judaism.



To: Alan Markoff who wrote (28767)12/23/1999 3:11:00 PM
From: Alan Markoff  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
To Everyone,
You have now heard Emile Vidrine support and praise Martin Luther. Here are some excerpts from one of his books. This is easy to research and if this does not tell the truth of Emiles anti-Semitism nothing will.
Luther expected Jews to convert to his purified Christianity. When they did not, he turned violently against them.
It is impossible for modern people to read the horrible passages below and not to think of the burning of synagogues in November 1938 on Kristallnacht. Nor would one wish to excuse Luther for this text.
A number of points must, however, be made. The most important concerns the language used. Luther used violent and vulgar language throughout his career.

Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

(extracts)

Alas, it cannot be anything but the terrible wrath of God which permits anyone to sink into such abysmal, devilish, hellish, insane baseness, envy, and arrogance. If I were to avenge myself on the devil himself I should be unable to wish him such evil and misfortune as God's wrath inflicts on the Jews, compelling them to lie and to blaspheme so monstrously, in violation of their own conscience. Anyway, they have their reward for constantly giving God the lie.

I brief, dear princes and lords, those of you who have Jews under your ruleðð if my counsel does not please your, find better advice, so that you and we all can be rid of the unbearable, devilish burden of the Jews, lest we become guilty sharers before God in the lies, blasphemy, the defamation, and the curses which the mad Jews indulge in so freely and wantonly against the person of our Lord Jesus Christ, this dear mother, all Christians, all authority, and ourselves. Do not grant them protection, safeðconduct, or communion with us.... .With this faithful counsel and warning I wish to cleanse and exonerate my

conscience.

First to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them. This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom, so that God might see that we are Christians, and do not condone or knowingly tolerate such public lying, cursing, and blaspheming of his Son and of his Christians. For whatever we tolerated in the past unknowingly ð and I myself was unaware of it ð will be pardoned by God. But if we, now that we are informed, were to protect and shield such a house for the Jews, existing right before our very nose, in which they lie about, blaspheme, curse, vilify, and defame Christ and us (as was heard above), it would be the same as if we were doing all this and even worse ourselves, as we very well know.

Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed. For they pursue in them the same aims as in their synagogues. Instead they might be lodged under a roof or in a barn, like the gypsies. This will bring home to them that they are not masters in our country, as they boast, but that they are living in exile and in captivity, as they incessantly wail and lament about us before God.

Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings, in which such idolatry, lies, cursing and blasphemy are taught, be taken from them. (remainder omitted)

Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life and limb. For they have justly forfeited the right to such an office by holding the poor Jews captive with the saying of Moses (Deuteronomy 17 [:10 ff.]) in which he commands them to obey their teachers on penalty of death, although Moses clearly adds: "what they teach you in accord with the law of the Lord." Those villains ignore that. They wantonly employ the poor people's obedience contrary to the law of the Lord and infuse them with this poison, cursing, and blasphemy. In the same way the pope also held us captive with the declaration in Matthew 16 {:18], "You are Peter," etc, inducing us to believe all the lies and deceptions that issued from his devilish mind. He did not teach in accord with the word of God, and therefore he forfeited the right to teach.

Fifth, I advise that safeðconduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews. For they have no business in the countryside, since they are not lords, officials, tradesmen, or the like. Let they stay at home. (...remainder omitted).

Sixth, I advise that usury be prohibited to them, and that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them and put aside for safekeeping. The reason for such a measure is that, as said above, they have no other means of earning a livelihood than usury, and by it they have stolen and robbed from us all they possess. Such money should now be used in no other way than the following: Whenever a Jew is sincerely converted, he should be handed one hundred, two hundred, or three hundred florins, as personal circumstances may suggest. With this he could set himself up in some occupation for the support of his poor wife and children, and the maintenance of the old or feeble. For such evil gains are cursed if they are not put to use with God's blessing in a good and worthy cause.

Seventh, I commend putting a flail, an ax, a hoe, a spade, a distaff, or a spindle into the hands of young, strong Jews and Jewesses and letting them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow, as was imposed on the children of Adam (Gen 3[:19]}. For it is not fitting that they should let us accursed Goyim toil in the sweat of our faces while they, the holy people, idle away their time behind the stove, feasting and farting, and on top of all, boasting blasphemously of their lordship over the Christians by means of our sweat. No, one should toss out these lazy rogues by the seat of their pants.

Many of the other mere Christian men he quotes and demands I respect said equally sick things. NO THANKS EMILE, I read the Bible.
Nancy