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To: Douglas V. Fant who wrote (57387)	12/25/1999 9:09:00 PM
From: BigBull	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 95453

OT - Aye me hearty, that I have! Those White Boys must've been "beyond the pale". As I understand it, the English crown instituted the penal laws which basically said that the Irish are not human beings and we English can do anything we want; which they proceeded to do forthwith. The "White Boys" (known by white shirts, not skin<g>) said F U, not in my country you don't, and proceeded to tear down all fences set up by the English, kill their cattle, and generally raise hell. They had contemporaries all over Ireland, such as the Oak Boys, the Steel Boys, etc and so forth. These were all "secret societies" designed to thwart the will of the English Crown and it's henchmen. Kind of like early versions of the IRA. <g> Now, don't keep me in suspense one minute longer - what was William Fants' part in all this! <g> TIA OSX Boy Bull <g>

To: Douglas V. Fant who wrote (57387)	12/26/1999 9:40:00 AM
From: dfloydr	Respond to of 95453

Happy Holidays to all. And Doug, while talking to your friend at APS, you might ask what he thinks of the circus show going on between SWX and the infamous Arizona Corporations Commission? I do not know whether you are tuned in to this show, but the FBI has seized records from one of the commissioner's homes. SWX is supposed to be taken over at $30/share but the whole thing looks as though it may spend a year or more in the courts as a result of kickbacks and collusion. It seems this commissioner arranged to broker the deal with a Wall Street firm in exchange for a commission. Is that where we get the word "commissioner"? Weather here in AZ is fantastic. Yesterday the views from the top of Lone Mountain were the clearest this year. Hope it stays this way for your visit.

To: Douglas V. Fant who wrote (57387)	12/26/1999 2:42:00 PM
From: BigBull	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 95453

Douglas, this DOE electricity market trend study supports your contentions about NG usage trends. IMO it also supports the, just posted, National Petroleum Council study on NG. US GDP growth now at 4 -5%, and going higher this qtr. hmmmmmm. ----------------------------------------------------------- eia.doe.gov Stronger Economic Growth Would Require More Generating Capacity From 1997 to 2020, the annual average growth rate for GDP ranges between 2.6 and 1.5 percent in the high and low economic growth cases, respectively. The difference of a percentage point in the economic growth rate leads to a 17-percent change in electricity demand in 2020, with a corresponding difference of 124 gigawatts of new capacity required in the high and low economic growth cases. Utilities are expected to retire between 19 and 20 percent of their current generating capacity (equivalent to 460 to 505 300-megawatt generating plants) by 2020 as the result of increased operating costs for aging plants. Most of the new capacity needed in the high economic growth case is expected to consist of natural-gas-fired plants?both turbine and combined-cycle units?which make up almost 60 percent of the projected new capacity in the high growth case. The stronger growth also stimulates additions of coal-fired plants, particularly in the later years, when higher natural gas prices make new coal-fired facilities more attractive economically (Figure 78). eia.doe.gov